Rear Swaybar/Poly Bushing Install

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[mercenvy]

LMAO....These cars understeer soooo much. Just increasing the rear wouldn't do THAT much. The rear is all I replaced on my 87, 89sedan, 89 wagon, my 03 protege (went from a 16mm to a 21.5mm adjustable) Not one of the cars oversteer dangerously. Except for the protege, all of them still understeer like pigs.

Hey it's just a discaimer...I don't want some teenybopper with 2 days driving experience crashing out and blaming me. Apparently some people have crashed at high speed after ugrading just the rear bar.
Boxes, wagons, and proteges are not exactly the same thing as an aero. Thanks for your opinion, though.

[Grand Marquis GT]

Or like that fucktard who armor-alled his tires (including the tread) and went driving in the rain, and crashed into a tree.

THAT is why we have disclaimers. Good writeup!!

[texasvic]

My car has a wee bit of oversteer.

:rofl:

[Johnnyiroc]

I was unable to find the proper rear bracket for my Addco bar, so I used a 3" exhaust clamp and it works well.

[85crownHPP]

when i added my 1" rear bar alone it got nothing but waaaayyy gooder :p

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[gadget73]

Thanks for the writeup. We can always use more tech info.

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[mercenvy]

My car has a wee bit of oversteer.

:rofl:

texasvic, what do mean? What size bar are you running?
I just had a thought...this almost seems suspension related, and there's already a suspension forum...:confused:

[p71towny]

My addcos helped alot. My friend about shit himself when I let him drive the towny after the suspension upgrades. I can't wait to finish and put wider wheels on.

[mercenvy]

My addcos helped alot. My friend about shit himself when I let him drive the towny after the suspension upgrades. I can't wait to finish and put wider wheels on.

My budget is not huge so I didn't go with an aftermarket company. If I could afford ADDCOs I might, but a while ago some people broke some stuff. So Now that everything's all set, I have already aquired my bars and am happy enough. Once I start upgrading, we'll see if the factory stuff will cut the mustard. I bet I'll be giving them a call in the future...

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[mrltd]

OK, I'll ignore you. Have fun hanging around in her by yourself. Just stop getting pissed when no one answers your threads. I was not being negative.

I also was not discrediting you...sway bars are a good upgrade, there are other things that you can do inexpensively to the cars.If the bars weren't, then we would't be putting the PI bars on all of our boxes. All I was saying is that in my opinion the front bar is a waste of time due to the amount of understeer built into these cars.

So here ya go...deleted...

[Grand Marquis GT]

ENOUGH, goddamnit.

[Johnnyiroc]

Dont make me sanitize this thread kids. :)

[Johnnyiroc]

Wow, that is such a good idea! I noticed you have the greaseable bushings, too! I wasn't able to locate them, but the ones I have work OK. How big is that rear bar and what year Panther is it in?I have the greaseable fronts, though...
The muffler clamp doesn't slide, though, does it?
1.25 front, 1.0" rear bar by addco, the best bang for the buck mod, need to get some freaking bilsteins soon.

[Freshmeat]

Is the mounting point for the 92+ rear bar any different on the 92+ from the 91-? As in... the point at which a 92+ bar mounts- is that stronger on the 92+? I hear it's a really weak spot for the 91-, so if I go with the newer bar, how hard would it be to reinforce that location?

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[Johnnyiroc]

Sounds like it may be for the best. Maybe the 4.6 section is't your cup of tea. If you ignore me then you won't have to read my "B.S." anyomore so you will be happier. I wasn't pissed that "nobody answered my post". It was mostly your attitude about the whole thing. What's that saying...if you have nothing nice to say.....

I know it is your opinion that the front bar doesn't mean crap. Maybe it's because you are running such stiff springs, IDK. I DO know that it made a significant difference in the handling of MY car. Which is not a box, and not a wagon. You are entitled to your opinion, but blanket statements such as the ones you made are innacurate and detract from the purpose for this thread in the first place. Going around saying that "the front bar doesn't mean crap" is certainly somewhat discouraging to those who are thinking of ugrading their front bar. This mod is easy to do and cheap, and what-90% of the people who have done it say it is the best bang-for-the-buck mods they have done. Why do you have to come with your negative comments, especially when you are talking about a box wagon anyways?
Maybe I'll be "alone in here" but I've still got some more pics and they are worthy. So just let me go about my business(in 4.6) and you go about yours(in 5.0, 5.8 or wagons)...
This crap needs to go to the battlefield if this continues......to tell you the truth the front bar does the most. Many people use the addco, front and a hpp rear bar. Stiffer rear bars make a difference, But the front does the most, that is why it is bigger. It has the most force on it. Lighter rear bars allow oversteer which is better than understeer anyday. You can counter steer the back end, but in understeer, you cannot do anything. I prefer both front and back to be matched for a balanced reaction, Thats why I used Addco front and rear bars.

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[Johnnyiroc]

thank you :)

[DuceAnAHalf]

You can make your own greasable bushings, they are not as effective as the purpose built ones, but greasable none the less.

You will need to get some Zerk fittings. They can be found in auto part stores. you will need to drill the clamp and the bushing make sure the holes line up. install the Zerk in the clamp. now you can inject grease directly to the inside of the bushing.

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[DuceAnAHalf]

Well the rears are so easy to take off, If they ever start sqeaking I'll just remove the clamps and re-lube with that lube they sell.
Good point on making your own, though.
I do have the greaseable fronts...:2up:


If you are feeling adventerous you can do that to your control arm bushings. You want to remove the inner sleeve, drill through the shell and the bushing, and reinstall the inner sleeve. We did this on my brothers Thunderbird.

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