aftermarket front race brakes

[DuceAnAHalf]

http://www.aerospacecomponents.com is located locally, i went there yesterday to get the rest of the parts for my manual brake conversion. The guy said that i could bring my spindle down and they would make a brake kit for my car. The kits are not cheap (retail for around $700) but mt friend used to work there so might be able to get them cheaper, but they would be blemished kits

I was just checking if anyone would be interested in a set. I relize that there are only a handful of us that the drag brakes would be good for, Me, SLYDAWG, BBT. Would not reccommend them for a daily driver or abuse like mrltd does.
Since id be using my current spindles it would most likely be for the 79-91 suspension. But i just need the newer spindles and bushings for a newer set up.

Should not be too much work since the regular fox mustang calipers will work, just need a rotor with the right hat offset

[mrltd]

Have you checked to see if skinnies clear the 98-02 brakes without any issues?

I'd say go 98-02 and get the custom stuff made up. Better bearing setup and with the seperate hub/rotor aftermarket rotors will be easier to find and cheaper.
Granted, the 87-93 fox setup would bolt on easily as you mentioned. With the exception of the rotor.

[DuceAnAHalf]

Have you checked to see if skinnies clear the 98-02 brakes without any issues?

I'd say go 98-02 and get the custom stuff made up. Better bearing setup and with the seperate hub/rotor aftermarket rotors will be easier to find and cheaper.
Granted, the 87-93 fox setup would bolt on easily as you mentioned. With the exception of the rotor.

i dont have a 98-02 to bolt them up too.

im contemplating the aftermarket brakes is if i cant produce enough pressure with the manual 1 1/32 master cylinder and the 73mm calipers to stop the car well enough

[mrltd]

Well find someone with a 98-02.... What year is Bobs showcar?

Wonder if it would just be easier to do a stock 98-02 swap and find a MC that is good enough for it.

[DuceAnAHalf]

Well find someone with a 98-02.... What year is Bobs showcar?

Wonder if it would just be easier to do a stock 98-02 swap and find a MC that is good enough for it.


his is at least 98+

then id have to find a manual MC that would work with those calipers.

once i get all the brake line fittings i need ill see if it will stop. It needs about 100-150#s of force on the pedal. i used to be able to leg press over 800#s and i can do a single leg squat easilly and im 220, so i should be able to do 150.

[mrltd]

Is the booster really THAT heavy? Why not just keep the power brakes?

That kind of force sound like asking for firewall/pedal breakage. Just like those wonderful ford truck clutches.

[DuceAnAHalf]

well right now if i want to stop, i have to down shift and then put the car into neutral and pump the brakes to get any stopping power. i cant even warm the tires up because it pushes right through the front brakes

[mrltd]

Sounds like you've got some issues!

[DuceAnAHalf]

Sounds like you've got some issues!

yup. i bled the brakes today and no improvement

[Mercmarquis]

You could run a vaccum pump

[DuceAnAHalf]

i dont think it is a vacuum issue. if it had no vacuum it would be very hard to press the pedal. i think the master cylinder seals are bad. tomorrow im going to take it off and see if it is leaking

[P72Ford]

My brother's '88 P72 was having alot of brake issues. he replaced all the lines, and I mean all of them. He replaced all the hoses, as well as the master cylinder; basically the entire braking system (calipers, rotors, drums, all new hardware, etc). The problem ended up being the booster. Sometimes the car would stop fine, and other times it the brakes would stay on. Even other times it required intense pedal pressure to evoke any reponse from the brakes.

[DuceAnAHalf]

the problem with mine is that the pedal takes no pressure to go to the floor. even with the car off i can press the pedal waaaayyyy too easy

[gadget73]

sounds like internal leakage on the MC. usually whenever I've had one fail it does that, mushy pedal, poor brake performance. they don't always leak externally but cylinders are cheap enough. If you need a bit more pressure, I believe the 84 mark vii hydroboost MC is a 1 3/16" bore vs the 1 1/8" bore the stock box one is. the line sizes are reversed though, so you'd need some adapters to make it work. the 84 mark vii unit is the same thing as a Mustang SVO MC but its iron instead of aluminum. Quite a bit cheaper too last I checked the price on one.

[DuceAnAHalf]

i do believe that it is the MC now. i removed it and there was a lot of pale yellow crystal like gunk on the back of the mc and in the recessed area inside the booster. the bottom few degrees of the mc rear was also rusty. I already have another booster but not a mc.

Looks like advanced sells reman Bendix MC for an 85 SVO with 4 wheel disc for $25 plus $5 core.
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=BEN&MfrPartNumber=R11897&PartType=230&PTSet=A

Cardone has a reman for the same car, but says for manual brakes for $33 plus a $4 core and comes with the pedal rod
http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=A1C&MfrPartNumber=101906&PartType=230&PTSet=A

[Fordman75]

Duce have you given any thought to running a wilwood dual mastercylinder set up? It's basically like they run in Nascar. It uses two completely seperate mastercylinders with a balance bar on the aftermarket pedal.

It's a manual brake setup but it takes less effort then a stock type manual brake setup. Plus with the balance bar you can toss your proportioning valve too. Plus you could even install a knob on your dash to adjust your brake bias.:D

It would take a little fabrication to mount it but it'll clean up your engine compartment even more and then you can chuck the vacuum booster and get that out of your way. You'd get to lighten up your car a little more and get better brake pedal feel then the stock setup.

The whole setup would run about $220.00 -$230.00.

Anyways it would give you another option to think about.

[DuceAnAHalf]

Duce have you given any thought to running a wilwood dual mastercylinder set up? It's basically like they run in Nascar. It uses two completely seperate mastercylinders with a balance bar on the aftermarket pedal.

It's a manual brake setup but it takes less effort then a stock type manual brake setup. Plus with the balance bar you can toss your proportioning valve too. Plus you could even install a knob on your dash to adjust your brake bias.:D

It would take a little fabrication to mount it but it'll clean up your engine compartment even more and then you can chuck the vacuum booster and get that out of your way. You'd get to lighten up your car a little more and get better brake pedal feel then the stock setup.

The whole setup would run about $220.00 -$230.00.

Anyways it would give you another option to think about.

yeah i have thought about that but for drag racing it is not really needed