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    **The Tank Won't Start!!!!**

    It turns over but will NOT start
    i have:
    - new fuel filter
    - new fuel pump
    - new coil
    - new crankshaft sensor
    ALL INSTALLED
    i checked the fuses and relays and they all checked out.
    i need help. im gonna put new plugs and wires in it.
    any other suggestions??
    thanks.
    -ryan
    08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
    03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
    97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
    94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
    73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
    12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
    Originally posted by pantera77
    Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

    #2
    sure the coil is connected?
    ~David~

    My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
    My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

    Originally posted by ootdega
    My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

    Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
    But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

    Originally posted by gadget73
    my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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      #3
      yup. both of them are.
      08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
      03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
      97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
      94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
      73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
      12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
      Originally posted by pantera77
      Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

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        #4
        everything is good. i jacked the car back up, cleaned the contacts on the connection on the fuel tank. and then i finally got the fuel pump to whirr. and the Tank came roaring back to life.
        God, im leaving for California in 18 days. i dont need this shit. it stresses me.
        08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
        03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
        97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
        94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
        73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
        12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
        Originally posted by pantera77
        Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

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          #5
          way...........
          ~David~

          My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

          Originally posted by ootdega
          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

          Originally posted by gadget73
          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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            #6
            ***TANK STILL WON&quot;T START***

            huge problem. i need input.

            -new fuel pump
            -new fuel filter
            - 1 new coil pack

            i turn the key to "ON" and there is NO whirr from the fuel pump.

            -all the fuses and relays are good

            I jumped the fuel pump relay. And it whirred. That indicated that the wiring from the relay to the pump is good. the terminal block is still good. Whatever controls the fuel pump relay is bad. either the PCM relay ,the PCM, or the Diode. is bad.

            the PCM relay is good.

            while i had the jumper in the fuel pump relay, i tried to start the car to no avail. Nothing.

            HELP ME.

            -ryan.

            thanks.
            08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
            03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
            97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
            94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
            73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
            12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
            Originally posted by pantera77
            Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

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              #7
              got spark?

              1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
              2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
              1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
              1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
              2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
              1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

              please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                #8
                I'm gonna check when i get home.
                08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
                03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
                97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
                94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
                73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
                12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
                Originally posted by pantera77
                Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

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                  #9
                  i checked at the coils. no signal is getting to the coil.
                  and the fuel pump wont turn on.
                  is the EDIS toast?
                  08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
                  03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
                  97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
                  94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
                  73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
                  12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
                  Originally posted by pantera77
                  Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

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                    #10
                    prob the module.......rock auto has motorcrafts the cheapest......111 beans

                    1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                    2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                    1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                    1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
                    2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
                    1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                    please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                      #11
                      my dads bringing over his voltmeter today. i fried mine a few weeks ago. theres a few checks i have to do on the EDIS (electronic distributor-less ignition system) that will tell me if the PCM is bad or the EDIS is bad.

                      im going with scott on this one. the schematics say the when the key is turned on, the PCM relay then sends power to the PCM which in turn goes the the Fuel pump relay and turns the pump on.
                      i gotst to fix this soon mangs.
                      thanks!!
                      -ryan s.
                      08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
                      03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
                      97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
                      94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
                      73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
                      12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
                      Originally posted by pantera77
                      Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

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                        #12
                        the edis is not getting power.
                        how can i check to see if power is getting to the PCM relay?
                        08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
                        03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
                        97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
                        94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
                        73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
                        12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
                        Originally posted by pantera77
                        Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

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                          #13
                          VERY NIIIIIICE!!! I LIKE YOU...

                          hokay, so.....

                          the PCM relay was getting power. the test light proved that. i put 5 different FUNCTIONAL relays in there, and none of them worked. I used the same jumper wire i made for the fuel pump relay.
                          i put the jumper in the PCM relay and..... the fuel pump relay kicked the fuel pump on.

                          so, i think im on to something here....

                          i leave the jumper in the PCM relay, and decide, im gonna try and start the car. at this point, fuck it.
                          it starts. and runs. and is awesome.

                          sweet! but now, every time i have to start my car, i have to pop the hood and plug in this jumper. and every time i turn it off, i have to unplug this jumper.
                          not any longer, my friends....

                          i put a switch in the cab that acts as the jumper. i pull swtich. turn car on. no getting out necessary. and if i hit it while the car is running, it kills it. KILL SWITCH!!!
                          i also put a LED off the switch because if i forget to turn it off, the car would be dead quickly.

                          Ill post pics tomorrow when it gets light out and stuff.

                          sweded
                          -ryan s.
                          08 Lincoln Navigator L - 233k
                          03 Mercury Marauder- 63k
                          97 Ford Crown Victoria HPP "Tank of Justice III" (TOJ3) - 194k -->578.9 miles on ONE tank of gas<--
                          94 BMW 325i Convertible - 135k
                          73 VW Super Beetle "Bunky" <----- Wifey's
                          12 Mini Cooper S - 90k <---- Wifey's
                          Originally posted by pantera77
                          Well my buddy tells him he knows exactly who loves buying shitboxes.

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