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    B&M Shift Improver Kit

    Order my B&M Shift improver kit (AOD) from the local O'reilly, and will be in on wednesday. Has anyone used this kit, and what kind of improvements will I see? I am going to have it set up for stage 2. I am also going to outsource the job to a connection I have at the local ford dealer ( Sorry I dont have faith in my trans abilites aside from fluid and filter changes.)

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    #2
    I used a B&M on my '89 Crown Vic, and it definitely made an improvement, but I was disappointed that it didn't firm up the 1-2 shift more than it did. It was still pretty soft, but faster than it had been before. 2-3 and 3-4 felt very nice.

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      #3
      Thanks Nathan, A real issue i noticed at the track was the slow shifting and it would hold the gears too long before up shifting. My trans is in good shape with 85800 miles on it.

      2011 Grand Marquis LS Ultimate Edition
      Dual Exhaust w/ AP XLerator mufflers and 3 1/2" tips, Eibach 1" rear sway bar, Pioneer Head unit and speakers, 17X8 Drag DR-72 wheels

      RIP 1984 2Dr Crown Vic "The Millennium Falcon"
      Carbed 5.0 HO w/nitrous , Performer RPM intake, GT40P heads, E303 cam, FRP Shorties, FRP 9mm plug wires, Off-Road H-pipe, Magnaflow round mufflers, 2000 rpm stall
      NA-15.78@91.21, 80hp shot-14.48@96.21

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        #4
        I saw almost no improvement after installing a B&M kit on my white '87. Of course, that was a comparatively weak-shifting transmission to begin with.

        What do you mean by "hold the gears too long"? The usual problem with a Vic AOD is shifting way earlier than convenient.
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          #5
          I installed it on my car. It was a waste of money. It had snappier shifts but really didnt change anything.
          ~David~

          My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

          Originally posted by ootdega
          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

          Originally posted by gadget73
          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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            #6
            Originally posted by 1987cp View Post
            I saw almost no improvement after installing a B&M kit on my white '87. Of course, that was a comparatively weak-shifting transmission to begin with.

            What do you mean by "hold the gears too long"? The usual problem with a Vic AOD is shifting way earlier than convenient.
            I was refering the the slow smooth transition into the next gear, as opposed to a snappier quicker shift. Can you say slushbox? LOL

            2011 Grand Marquis LS Ultimate Edition
            Dual Exhaust w/ AP XLerator mufflers and 3 1/2" tips, Eibach 1" rear sway bar, Pioneer Head unit and speakers, 17X8 Drag DR-72 wheels

            RIP 1984 2Dr Crown Vic "The Millennium Falcon"
            Carbed 5.0 HO w/nitrous , Performer RPM intake, GT40P heads, E303 cam, FRP Shorties, FRP 9mm plug wires, Off-Road H-pipe, Magnaflow round mufflers, 2000 rpm stall
            NA-15.78@91.21, 80hp shot-14.48@96.21

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              #7
              I thought AODs were just naturally extra-slushy.
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                #8
                Oh, you mean it shifts slowly, not that it holds the gear. "Holding a gear" means to me that it's shifting at higher RPM.
                Last edited by 1987cp; 12-08-2009, 12:44 AM.
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                  #9
                  On my 95 town car it chirps em from 1-2 and 2-3 when I floor it. People look over like wtf? Oops, I have a trans go not B&M sorry.
                  Last edited by p71towny; 12-15-2009, 08:35 PM. Reason: wrong shift kit
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                    #10
                    i had a b&m shift improver kit installed by my friend brian in 2004 shortly after my ho conversion.....it was slipping pretty bad at wot in the 1-2 shift.......shift kit new fluid and maxed out tv pressure
                    i like the shifts......my light throttle shifts are fairly harsh.......wot is not but that is just the nature of the aod

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                      #11
                      Yeah, I've never seen an AOD that had a really firm 1-2 shift at WOT, at least not one that was anywhere near stock. The AOD in my '89 had a nice firm 1-2 shift at light throttle, but was a lot slower at WOT. The 4R70W in my '01 is the same way since I did the J-mod. 2-3 shifts are nice and firm at WOT in both cars. I guess it's just the way they're designed. I remember Larry making a comment before about the direct clutch pack being the culprit in that, but that's deeper into the tranny than most people want to go, methinks.

                      Okay, I'll quit rambling now.

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                      1985 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series
                      But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

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                        #12
                        stock AOD shift calibration is horribly mushy. Shift kits help, but I've never been in an AOD car that had a WOT 1-2 shift I liked. Even my car with its relatively fresh and otherwise very healthy transmission has a pretty mushy 1-2 shift. The Mark VII with its stock transmission has an outright horrible 1-2 though, so comparatively speaking, the Towncar isn't so bad.
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                        Originally posted by phayzer5
                        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                          #13
                          I like the way your car shifts, Thain. The first time I rode in it, I remember thinking... "oh, these shifts are crisp".. not something I usually associate with the AOD.

                          I have no thoughts on shift kits as they pertain to the AOD. One of these days I will fix the set-up in the red box. I have debated buying a complete vb, I have even thought of changing the entire transmission. I'll probably do nothing.

                          I did put a B&M kit (not the improver, the more complex one) in a GM TH400, and the results were *very nice*. Fast, crisp shifts; the transmission was otherwise stock, with the exception of a 3800 stall converter.

                          I have to admit that I am a fan of hard shifting automatics, however nonsensical they may be. The best shifts I have ever felt are in my Dad's '05 F350 6.0 diesel. When the transmission is not yet at operating temp, and you put the transmission in tow-haul mode, and do a slightly boosted launch, and go to WOT... Mmmm... mmmm..mmm. Just about hit your head on the rear window.
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                            #14
                            Nate I am drooling over your signature even though that is a fairly old picture that I have seen before.
                            ~David~

                            My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                            My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                            Originally posted by ootdega
                            My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                            Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                            But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nathan in MI View Post
                              Yeah, I've never seen an AOD that had a really firm 1-2 shift at WOT, at least not one that was anywhere near stock. The AOD in my '89 had a nice firm 1-2 shift at light throttle, but was a lot slower at WOT. The 4R70W in my '01 is the same way since I did the J-mod. 2-3 shifts are nice and firm at WOT in both cars. I guess it's just the way they're designed. I remember Larry making a comment before about the direct clutch pack being the culprit in that, but that's deeper into the tranny than most people want to go, methinks.

                              Okay, I'll quit rambling now.
                              The trick with making the AOD shift violently (and I mean violent) during the 1-2 shift is the 4-disc intermediate clutch mod. If I ever get around to freshening up the SC AOD that I plan to toss into the T-bird, I'll snap some photos of what I'm talking about. It's easy to do, because if you're tossing in a new O/D band, then you have to remove the intermediate clutch pack to get to it....

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