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    351W Swap time.

    I almost have my pile of parts together. I picked up a 95 roller 351W motor tonight. All I need is a good set of rods. I don't have much faith in factory Windsor rods. I have a set of forged slugs and I will use Victor Jr heads on this build. I want to try and fit it under the factory hood so I am going to try a Weiand Stealth and then a Performer RPM intake as a second choice if the Weiand is too high. I would Love to use a Victor Jr intake but there is no chance of that fitting. I am going to use a TFS Stage 1 cam and I have a set of TFS 1.7 roller rockers.

    #2
    Ed, what do you have for cars?

    What is this going in? Panther? Mustang?
    **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
    **2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
    **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
    **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck Duties

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      #3
      I would really like to get it in my 91 Crown Vic and drive it to Scottfest. It may first see some use in my 91 Mustang earlier in the year with a TKO 5 speed behind it. The AOD from my Capri will be behind it in the Crown Vic. I have a 4500 stall converter and it will be nice to have an engine that can take full advantage of it.

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        #4
        Well, please do this.

        It should run its stones off.

        Maybe its a little early to be asking, but what are you using for a carb? Vac or mechanical secondaries?
        **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
        **2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
        **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
        **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck Duties

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          #5
          Sounds entertaining!
          2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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            #6
            i was able to fit a rpm airgap under the hood, but you have to use an air cleaner with a very low stack height, cut your supports and use a bolt instead of a stud to hold the air cleaner down. so your Weiand should work, just might have to try a few different air cleaner bases. matter of fact, i may have had a nitrous plate under it at the time also.
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              #7
              Originally posted by P72Ford View Post
              Well, please do this.

              It should run its stones off.

              Maybe its a little early to be asking, but what are you using for a carb? Vac or mechanical secondaries?
              Mechanical.

              Originally posted by DuceAnAHalf View Post
              i was able to fit a rpm airgap under the hood, but you have to use an air cleaner with a very low stack height, cut your supports and use a bolt instead of a stud to hold the air cleaner down. so your Weiand should work, just might have to try a few different air cleaner bases. matter of fact, i may have had a nitrous plate under it at the time also.
              Since I will definitely be running a plate, I need to take that into consideration for overall height.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mercracer View Post
                Mechanical.


                Since I will definitely be running a plate, I need to take that into consideration for overall height.
                whats the height of your intake vs a RPM air gap? one issue i had was that the moroso air cleaner i have i had to use a 1" spacer under it otherwise it would not sit flat, it hit the float adjuster screws.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DuceAnAHalf View Post
                  whats the height of your intake vs a RPM air gap? one issue i had was that the moroso air cleaner i have i had to use a 1" spacer under it otherwise it would not sit flat, it hit the float adjuster screws.
                  I haven't measured it, but it looks like at least an inch. The car is buried in snow and will not likely come out until spring melt. My focus right now is to get the motor built. Even if the motor ends up in the Mustang before I get the 302 out of the CV, I have another 351W bare block I can use for a mock up to check the intake height.
                  I will have to check on my Dad's Cyclone to see what we used on that one. It was a very low profile air cleaner that had a drop base yet the top had plenty of clearance to the vents. I got it from the local circle track speed shop.

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                    #10
                    i think you will be fine then, just cant run a 4" air cleaner
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DuceAnAHalf View Post
                      i think you will be fine then, just cant run a 4" air cleaner
                      With the base I am looking at, I may be able to. I have to check what the standard K&N filter height is. It may only be 3"....
                      Last edited by Mercracer; 12-18-2010, 12:15 PM.

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                        #12
                        I had a 3" open element air cleaner on my 351 car. The intake was an EGR Edelbrock Performer, with the 1" EGR plate, an Edlbrock 600, and a flate base (no drop) air cleaner.

                        I left the air cleaner stud about an inch long, and it just scratched the underhood support when I closed the hood.

                        I ran into an issue with the Monte Carlo that I wrench on, where the air cleaner base was dropped so much that the choke flap (750 DP) couldn't open all the way. It was a brand name air cleaner too. Of course, if you're running a chokeless HP, that isn't really a concern.
                        **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
                        **2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
                        **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
                        **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck Duties

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                          #13
                          Why not just run the intake you want ? Cut a hole in the hood and throw a Boss 429 scoop on it? It won't look 100% stock but big deal it's not stock.

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                            #14
                            Stock looking is cool....

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                              #15
                              So is the hood scoop as long as you can back it up.

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