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BerniniCaCO3
03-07-2011, 02:58 AM
Hi!

Doing my HO/gt40 rebuild now, just ordered almost everything on Friday.
I'm getting valve seals as a matter of course, and I'll be regrinding the valve faces and, I think -if I have the equipment at school- the seats as well. I'm replacing springs and keepers.

I was wondering if it would be good practice to replace the rockers?
Kindof by accident (bought the e7te heads, then a block from another guy who threw in 2 sets of heads, and THEN found gt40s at the scrapyard) I have more stock rockers than I know what to do with. Between the rockers with 60,000 miles on them, the rockers with 110,000 miles on them, and the unknowable junkyard rockers-- frankly I couldn't tell the difference. They're all stained brown with oil, except that little spot where they rub against the valve stem; and that little spot is not perceptively deeper in any one rocker over any other despite the mileage difference.

Can I gather then that, unlike springs and valve seats, rockers might last forever and not need replacing?

That's the first question.
Should I change out the rockers? I'm doing almost everything else... but if I don't need to, that's another $100 for something else in the build.

Second question, if I DO change out the rockers, worth going roller? Comp camps made a 1.72 ratio pedestal (stock compatible) roller rocker at some point, it seems there are several sets on ebay at all times for ~$150 used. Right now a fellow is selling his used set with the claim that they have 30,000 miles on them, not bad, lower than any of the stamped steel stock ones I've got, by half.

Worth bidding $150 for 'em? I'm not looking to excel @5000rpm, but lighter and lower resistance are better at any speed I figure, and replacement stock stamped steel are almost $150 anyway.
Do roller rockers wear out any faster, seeing as they have more moving parts? That would be my one concern with buying used ones; are they as long lived as stamped steel stock?


thanks for the advice!

gadget73
03-07-2011, 09:52 AM
rockers actually don't go bad much, but if you want to replace them, I would go with roller rockers for the reduced friction. I'd just look over the ones you have and pick the cleanest and least-worn. You'll find wear on the top side of the rocker closest to the center where the arm rocks against the metal curved block that holds it down. Also, make sure you orient the center piece that the bolt passes through correctly against the rocker. There is an oil groove in that pivot point and you'll find that it leaves a matching mark on the rocker itself. If you flip it around, the rocker will ride on a very very small raised portion, causing premature wear.

86VickyLX
03-07-2011, 11:28 AM
Rollers will last longer, since it has a rolling surface, instead of a flat surface.

91waggin
03-09-2011, 12:34 PM
Also you won't have to worry about finding oil with lots of zinc in it to keep the tappets in good shape.

DuceAnAHalf
03-11-2011, 12:21 AM
Also you won't have to worry about finding oil with lots of zinc in it to keep the tappets in good shape.
your thinking of a roller cam, not roller rockers.

i have a set of Scorpion roller rockers, they are a good buy for the money

86VickyLX
03-11-2011, 12:42 AM
i have a set of Scorpion roller rockers, they are a good buy for the money
What valvecovers are you running?

91waggin
03-11-2011, 05:03 PM
your thinking of a roller cam, not roller rockers.

i have a set of Scorpion roller rockers, they are a good buy for the money

Oh. Herp derp.

Yes, I pay full attention to everything I read.

DuceAnAHalf
03-12-2011, 08:37 PM
What valvecovers are you running?

cheap cast aluminum covers from summit

86VickyLX
03-12-2011, 08:53 PM
Have any pics of them? I'm trying to run my scorpions with my EFI, but the Ford Racing ones I have are too tall, (I can't even run the spacer required to clear the intake, because the spacer makes upper intake too high to close the hood).

1990LTD
03-13-2011, 12:27 PM
Have any pics of them? I'm trying to run my scorpions with my EFI, but the Ford Racing ones I have are too tall, (I can't even run the spacer required to clear the intake, because the spacer makes upper intake too high to close the hood).


fake weiand blower with an on-off switch sticking through the hood time? I think so...

86VickyLX
03-13-2011, 06:52 PM
fake weiand blower with an on-off switch sticking through the hood time? I think so...
Nah, you can do that when you find out 1 inch spacer won't fit under vic hood. I like looking stock.

1990LTD
03-13-2011, 07:01 PM
Nah, you can do that when you find out 1 inch spacer won't fit under vic hood. I like looking stock.

I already know it won't fit :D I didn't find out until after I bought it, though, so I might see if I can get a few bucks for it.

gadget73
03-14-2011, 04:39 PM
3/8" spacer should fit.

1990LTD
03-14-2011, 08:45 PM
I wonder how easily a 1" spacer could become a 3/8" spacer?

slymer
03-14-2011, 08:53 PM
machine shop should be able to plane that easily. How much is another story.

1990LTD
03-14-2011, 09:00 PM
I'm making damn sure the valve covers will fit under the intake with a 3/8" spacer before I have a machine shop do anything :D

DuceAnAHalf
03-15-2011, 10:58 AM
Have any pics of them? I'm trying to run my scorpions with my EFI, but the Ford Racing ones I have are too tall, (I can't even run the spacer required to clear the intake, because the spacer makes upper intake too high to close the hood).

there are pictures on here, im at work so cant attach them. and im running a carb with a cowl hood so height is not an issue with me

gadget73
03-15-2011, 04:45 PM
stack some nuts or washers to get 3/8" and stick that between the upper and lower intake with 2 bolts to see if the hood would close.



Milling a spacer from 1" to 3/8" is trivial with the proper machine. It would not be cost effective though. Spacers are not that expensive and if you sell the wrong spacer, you'll recoup enough money for it to not be worth the hassle.