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    03 MGM rolling in park.

    Here's a scary one - I stop at a deli yesterday and when I get out of the car it rolls back a foot or two, clicking, then catches & stops.

    Ghosts of Ford issues past. Any ideas?

    Pete
    Originally posted by gadget73
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    #2
    Sound like the mechanism is broken, or at the minimum the spring the engages lock. I've never seen one actually break. Someone must have tossed that thing in park while moving quite a lot.
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      #3
      Has it done it more than that one time?

      The teeth that the pawl lock into might be worn/rounded off. Or the pawl itself could be rounded off/chipped off (either usually happens when shifting into park while moving).

      Is your shifter lined up correctly? I know the shift mechanism getting a little loose is a common problem on Panthers (and Rangers/Explorers). That could make it only partially engage...

      This is a parking pawl on a C4 from an older Mustang, but same general idea.
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        #4
        I thought it moved a little once before but this is the first time I knew it for sure.

        As a matter of fact the marker over the column IS a little off. I didn't think anything of it. I'll drop the column and take a look. I suuure hope that's it.

        I've caught reference elsewhere through google that perhaps the cable is bad (I didn't know they were cable systems now. What's this world coming to? )

        Once again, thanks guys. I'll report back.

        Pete
        Originally posted by gadget73
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        1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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          #5
          Ach somthing just occured to me - I was going to check the parking brake this weekend just in case, but when I redid the rear brakes I ripped out the parking brake stuff.

          To quote our favorite slimey ghost, bah!

          Pete
          Originally posted by gadget73
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          1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
          1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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            #6
            You might want to reinstall that stuff :p

            If you're rolling too fast and you throw it in park, it can click quite a bit before it stops. Where you on the brake at a complete stop when you put it into park?

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              #7
              Yeah, I disabled parking brakes on the Vic when a cable was stuck, then when messing with the LTD I figured out how to loosen up the cable. Not so great not to have parking brakes.

              How's your shifter adjustment? Easy to have things not click into place right if it's off. Also, easier to check that than trying to inspect the parking pawl.
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                #8
                I was at a complete stop before putting it in park. I had already shut the door when it started rolling

                I've always pulled the emergency brake stuff inside the 'drum' when I do rear discs. The lines should all be there. It was a PA car so they might not even be frozen. I'll have to do a little JY digging and find some decent guts. Dang it.

                So it might be a shifter adjustment? Do I drop the column for that?

                Pete
                Originally posted by gadget73
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                  #9
                  Your parking brake is your only backup in the event of a brake failure. Put it back in!!! (that's what she said)
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Piece-it pete View Post
                    I was at a complete stop before putting it in park. I had already shut the door when it started rolling

                    I've always pulled the emergency brake stuff inside the 'drum' when I do rear discs. The lines should all be there. It was a PA car so they might not even be frozen. I'll have to do a little JY digging and find some decent guts. Dang it.

                    So it might be a shifter adjustment? Do I drop the column for that?

                    Pete
                    Is your shifter loose? I've dealt with some aeros that the shifter gets floppy and the trans isn't where the indicator say it is. That's a matter of tightening some bolts on the firewall on the inside of the car. It could also be that the shifter cable is messed up. However, you should notice stuff in other gears as well.

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                      #11
                      Yeah the shifter feels a bit loose. I'll have to get under there and take a look around.

                      I found a thing on adjusting the shifter at supermotors.net. Something about hanging a 3 pound weight off the shifter

                      Pete, the only cars I've seen/owned up here in rustland with working emergency brakes have been manuals. The cables love to freeze up.

                      Pete
                      Originally posted by gadget73
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                      1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                      1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Piece-it pete View Post
                        Yeah the shifter feels a bit loose. I'll have to get under there and take a look around.

                        I found a thing on adjusting the shifter at supermotors.net. Something about hanging a 3 pound weight off the shifter

                        Pete, the only cars I've seen/owned up here in rustland with working emergency brakes have been manuals. The cables love to freeze up.

                        Pete
                        A guy I know (from the Chicagoland area) took the cable and the shoes off his GMQ and he gained some fuel mileage. Must've been dragging or something.
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