Stranded 2005 GM

[willman93]

Pulled into a parking spot today, put car in park and it began to role backwards. The transmission won't go into gear at all and it just revs. The shifter feels loose and doesnt do anything. After i shut the car off it didn't start back up but didn't crank or anything. Any Help? Only 70,000 miles on it and no other problems

[mcninetyone]

My first guess is that you've got broken or disconnected linkage some where between the shifter and the tranny.
Probably closer to the tranny end of it, under the car.:2cents:

[zoomie]

Could be the yoke splines too or poss bad converter?

[Lincolnmania]

sounds like a broken shift tube on the steering column.....common problem with 90 and newer panthers

[Ziggy]

Okay, first thing... DON'T PANIC! Second thing, you need to climb up under the car and locate the shift linkage. What you've described is what happens when you turn the car off when it's in gear. The Park/Neutral saftey switch will prevent the car from starting unless its in Park or Neutral. If everything on the linkage end looks okay, I'd say LincolnMania is right, probably the shifter tube on the column.

[SVT98t]

Check your cable. If you can move the gear selector on the side of the transmission (Manual Lever Position Sesnor or MLPS) by hand, thenm your cable and or column tube is boned.
I'd also check to make sure that the end of the cable that attaches to the transmission isn't lose. They changed from a clip style to a arm/pin style. The end of the cable has an eyelet on it and goes on the pin which has a 18mm nut that holds it on. The eyelet is oblonged, so it can be adjusted if needed. If it is loose and slides too far, it will totally knock your gear selection out of whack, to include Park.
Check that stuff out and get back to us so we can see if you solved the problem, or we need to futher diagnosis.
:-)

-ryan s.

[willman93]

Thanks for the help, gunna check it out now.

[sxcpotatoes]

And he was never heard from again... the parking lot lizards must've gotten 'im!

[willman93]

Was the shifter cable but its fixed now. Hopefully the car will be good for a few more years without any problems now

[79lincolnlover]

If you need more help, you know where to visit :)

[SVT98t]

Good deal. Was it broken or out of adjustment?

-ryan s.

[willman93]

It was broken unfortunately. So far this car has more problems then my 1997 Crown Vic ever had with double the miles on it. Right side cat converter, a deactivation switch for the cruise control, and the shifter cable, and the paint is peeling in a few spots.. it gets washed twice a month. Wish I kept my '97 it only broke once with the plastic intake manifold cracking. I don't mean to complain, its just upsetting to have all these dumb problems in such a nice car with only 71000 miles :/
But now the headlights keep going out at night. Seems like it is going to be the headlight control module??

[tjc78]

[QUOTE=willman93;the paint is peeling in a few spots..[/QUOTE]

My Grandfather's 04 the paint peeled off the hood about a year or so ago. No warning either, he took it through the car wash and 25% of the paint was gone from the hood right to the primer. The bodyshop guy said there had to be contamination from when it was originally painted.

Luckily the car was white, so I just had the shop take the hood off the car and respray it. We got lucky and its a perfect match. If it was any other color, it would probably look a bit off doing it that way.

[slymer]

My Grandfather's 04 the paint peeled off the hood about a year or so ago. No warning either, he took it through the car wash and 25% of the paint was gone from the hood right to the primer. The bodyshop guy said there had to be contamination from when it was originally painted.

Luckily the car was white, so I just had the shop take the hood off the car and respray it. We got lucky and its a perfect match. If it was any other color, it would probably look a bit off doing it that way.

This is another reason why white is a superior paint color.


*awaits the politically incorrect quotes*

[Piece-it pete]

....
But now the headlights keep going out at night. Seems like it is going to be the headlight control module??

Probably. Very common. Can you get the brights to work if you hold the switch?

It's a very easy fix though.

Pete

[tjc78]

This is another reason why white is a superior paint color.


*awaits the politically incorrect quotes*

I've had quite a few white cars and loved them, so easy to keep clean. I don't know what I was thinking buying a black one this time around, it looks dirty by the time you are done drying it.

[willman93]

The highbeams will go on when i hold them on. They go off when I put the turn signal on and everytime so far the lights have come back on after a few minutes. Its scary when it happens when I turn to go on the highway at night

[slymer]

sounds like the circuit breaker has gotten weak. Isn't that in the fuse box under the hood?

[FordMan77]

That would most likely be a bad relay in your LCM (Lighting Control Module). Don't go to Ford for a new LCM unless you have a warranty still, they will want north of $600 for a new one which is still likely built w/ the same realys that will fail again sooner or later. I actually had this issue on my 03 Sport and fixed it with $5 (bought 2 relays in case I screwed the first one up, lol..) and an hour of my time to desolder and resolder the new relay in place. Been working fine ever since. I have the 2nd relay in my toolbox at home if you want the part # off of it if you feel like this is something you want to do.

[miamibob]

Do all the relays, in the LCM, have the same part number or are they different by function???

[willman93]

It came with an extended warranty with $!00 deductible so maybe I should just get a whole new PCM put in rather than pay $600 in a few years?

[slymer]

all the relays are the same... and they're standard parts. But if it's under warranty and you're not opposed to spending the change... let them fix it.

[FordMan77]

I actually installed an upgraded version of the stock relays which is a different part #. It's a better design that is more suited to having all that current run through it all the time. If I think of it I'll post the part info later tonight. But yea, if under warranty let them fix it for sure.

[miamibob]

Would LOVE to see Manufactor names and Part Numbers! Bobby

P.S. Wonder if they are the same on a '95 GM???

[FordMan77]

Ok, here is what I have...

This is what I replaced the stock relay with (copied from my actual order)

Product Name Item Number Quantity Item Price Total Price
NEC MR301-12HSL 2 $10.70 $21.40
Subtotal: $21.40
Shipping & Handling: $6.42
Tax: $0.00

Order Total: $27.82


Where I bought it- Well Gain Electronics Inc. wellgainelectronics.com


A tip that I have- Just a heads up to anyone trying to do this, Mouser.com was back ordered up to 16 wks for this component. A little research led us to wellgainelectronics.com where they had part #NEC MR301-HSL which they said was a better replacement for NEC EQ1-11111S (the stock relay). Plus it was in stock and got to us in 3 days.

Here is the direct link to the site, and the actual relay that I bought- http://www.wellgainelectronics.com/necmr301-12hsl.aspx

And the description of this relay from their website:


•MR301-12HSL HIGH AMP 12VDC AUTO RELAY SPDT 35A 16VDC
•Date Code: 2001
•Condition: New in Tube
•Country of Origin: Japan
•Better replacement for NEC EQ1-11111S
•Use for Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis & Lincoln Town Car



Not sure if the relay in the 95's are the same, but hopefully this will give you a place to start. Worst case you can check out that website and see if there is a replacement for the 95 version. Hope this info helps!

Also, I seem to have info (pics) on how to actually move this realy completely outside the LCM via jumper wires in order to keep it cool and keep it from cooking the board. Has illustrations w/ numbers and how to mount it.