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    Possible to add a 3 on the tree?

    Hey guys hows is going. Hope you all had a nice weekend. Well I though I would share with you one of my crazy thoughts I have rolling around in my head. I was wondering if I could add a 3 on the tree in my 1989 Grand Marquis with stock 302. Possible or am I just thinking nonsense. THanks.

    #2
    anything is possible given a large enough supply of money and time.
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      #3
      as in a 3 speed manual? I would imagine there would be significant fabrication required, at the very least. And then you'd have to manually shift, and have one less gear...

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        #4
        Yea its s 3spd manual but I love how you shift with the coulomb.

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          #5
          Have you ever drove one on the tree before? Their a total pain in the ass.
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            #6
            I haven't but would love to try it. There's just something about it I'm not quite sure what but maby its the shifting with the coulomb i don't know. I only ask because if I had to convert to manual I don't want to cut a hole in the floor then having the shifter coulomb just there. I'd like to keep the coulomb and get manual but i'm sure that I am bitting off more then I can chew on this one.

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              #7
              Those things are ridiculous to shift. And the shifter is abnormally huge. You'd probably have to swap your column out for one with a truck that had that, though bolting that up and making everything work would be kind of a challenge. Since the high beams are on a step switch and what not.

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                #8
                They are neat to drive, but a floor shifter is much more effective. You can remove the factory shift arm with relative ease, if you convert to a floor shifted manual (or auto).

                My Dad had a '62 Impala 2 dr sedan with a 3 spd column shift. It was a novelty to drive. Definitely fun, but not something I'd sink any effort into doing on one of these cars.
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                  #9
                  You'd need to fabricate the entire shift mechanism. Not impossible, but not easy. 3 speeds also kind of suck. Not sure if you've ever driven something with a 3 but it wants for more gears badly. A 4 (or 3 with OD) is sort of a minimum for decent driving.

                  Amusingly, the column shift was at one point a luxury. It was considered an upgrade to not have the clunky stick poking out of the floor. They were unfortunately rather cumbersome to drive and when the linkages wore out, it was more like poke and hope than shifting gears.
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                  Originally posted by phayzer5
                  I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                    #10
                    A luxury indeed. I would love to get a feel of the car with a stick shift but I don't want to ruin the "originality" of the car.The column shifter would be best of both worlds for me.

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                      #11
                      I don't think it'd be worth it, most likely it'll have slightly higher 1st-3rd ratios, which means more sluggish takeoffs but lower rpm cruising speed. You'll have no OD gear for the highway so the engine will be spinning faster if you drive on the highways. I drive my AOD like a 3spd, only use OD when driving for 5 minutes or more at 55mph or more, wouldn't want to stress the transmission and engine anymore than that, then again that'd be a manual which stay cooler and I need an external cooler for mine.

                      Anywho why not do the standard T5 swap? There's already writeups and you'll be gaining in every category, not going back. Yeah 3-on-the-tree's are cool but not practical, a 5spd on the floor is more practical, or if you wanna stay old school find an old 4spd and use that, make it muscle car style.
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                        #12
                        Hmmm I guess I'll sleep on it.

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                          #13
                          If you have the time and money, and the car is just to cruise city streets with and not your only daily transportation, then go for it. Otherwise i'd leave it alone or find an alternative.
                          88 Town Car (wrecked, for sale)
                          Walker OEM duals with muffler deletes

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                            #14
                            Umm how about a full manual valve body for your aod?
                            2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

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