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    Is this an HO governor?

    Hey guys. I have a line on a HO governor. Problem is they guys ad was from 2011. I contacted him and after all these years he does not know of this one he has in his possession is an HO governor. He took some pics for me. Can anyone help?





    ~David~

    My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
    My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

    Originally posted by ootdega
    My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

    Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
    But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

    Originally posted by gadget73
    my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.





    #2
    Its a H.O. governor a LoPo governor does not have a hole in the piston. The less weight the higher the shift point.

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      #3
      Thanks TrapSpeed.

      SO I guess this is my next question...... Should I just go with a trango Hi rev kit> Brings the shifts to 4900 or so. Will have trick flow 170 twisted wedge heads, gt 40 lower intake with tubular upper all on top of an HO engine. I am thinking that may be the real thing to purchase for my build but would like some input.
      Last edited by 87gtVIC; 08-07-2014, 05:32 PM.
      ~David~

      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

      Originally posted by ootdega
      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

      Originally posted by gadget73
      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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        #4
        I thought the standard HO gov set the shift point at around 5K dead to shift it by 53-5400. considering I read the numbers like 4 or so years ago on here... I'm probably off a bit.

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #5
          Oops I made a boo boo. The transgo kit makes your tranny shit at 5500. I honestly do not know where the Ford HO governor sets the shifts at.
          ~David~

          My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

          Originally posted by ootdega
          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

          Originally posted by gadget73
          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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            #6
            4800 or so.

            I had a conversation with the Ford dealer parts guy. He's a walking talking Ford encyclopedia. Of course I forgot a lot of the conversation, but he mentioned something about using the Transgo hi-rev governor instead of the HO one (which is what I went there looking for). That will shift it at about the same revs as the HO one. But do not use the Transgo shift kit. Using the shift kit will bring the WOT shift up to 5500. Also there was something about the 1-2 being at a different RPM than the 2-3 by going this route.

            Can anyone shed any light on any of this? Did I completely twist what he said into incomprehensible crap?
            1990 MGM: $50 E7 heads, HO cam, Holley SysteMAX lower intake, HO upper intake with an Explorer TB. LSC ECM. Lincoln logs into stock dual exhaust. K&N drop in air filter. Wide ratio AOD, 2400 converter with a 3.08 one tire fire out back. Car is less slow now. Then there's the '92 Beater. Dual 2.25" exhaust with shiny tips. Rumbles nice. Super slow. Burns oil too.

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              #7
              for a standard HO engine that sounds about right. The springs supposedly start to float that high... but with the setup Dave is going with, that shouldn't be an issue till about 6K I would think. Shift kit and hi-rev transgo may be the way to go.

              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
              Originally posted by gadget73
              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
              Originally posted by dmccaig
              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                #8
                The transgo kit is the way to go. From my own experiences do not install the governor by itself because it needs more line pressure due to tighter clearances and the much lighter weight. IIRC the other 2 springs are for the 2-3 and 3-4 shift valves. The transgo hi-rev kit can be combined with any shift kit. Just make sure you use everything in the transgo hi-rev kit of which is 3 springs and the governor itself.

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                  #9
                  Appreciate the input.

                  One last thing I have on my mind....I will be fine installing the hi rev kit into the stock governor or should I start out with a mustang governor?
                  ~David~

                  My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                  My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                  Originally posted by ootdega
                  My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                  Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                  But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                    #10
                    Pull the governor out of the housing by removing the 2 phillips head screws, remove the c-clip & spring, swap the spring which should be (red) IIRC put the little c clip back on the transgo governor and re-install. Make sure the screen in the housing does not come out and you should be all set. The housing is the same. The piston is what is different and all 3 will weigh in different with the transgo being the lightest in weight and the stock lopo being the heaviest the stang one falls in the middle weight wise.
                    Last edited by TrapSpeed111; 08-11-2014, 11:28 PM.

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                      #11
                      So no need to purchase the mustang one and then add the kit. No added benefit. Thanks.
                      ~David~

                      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                      Originally posted by ootdega
                      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                        #12
                        No problem!

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                          #13
                          3 governors were available for AOD - low speed (4200 rpm) Medium speed (4500 rpm) and High speed (4800 rpm)

                          according to transgo site, Hi-Rev kit has 2 options... 5400-5900 (depending on cam, torque converter and rear gear) or 6400-6800

                          http://www.transgo.com/products.php?...dcountview=Yes

                          also, use this to identify HO governor
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                            #14
                            Geez, that's a big step between HO and Hi-rev. I wanna be shifting 5000 or so.

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