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    anyone have a clue, Bueller Bueller Bueller ? have no idea
    it is not coming from t-stat housing
    any help is appreciated
    WARNING: Above advise is based on actual experience or just plain common sense. In the event said advise is determined to be incorrect you are entitled to a full refund of exactly what you paid for it.lol
    85 LTD Crown Vic Coupe 302 CFI Dual Exhaust No Cats Thrush Welds
    pwr windows, locks, seat, antenna
    cruise, tilt, white on white, maroon interior

    #2
    Intake gasket. Timing cover gasket, water pump gasket.

    If you have access to a coolant system pressure tester, hook it up, put it under pressure, see where it comes out.

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      #3
      Originally posted by 86VickyLX View Post
      Intake gasket. Timing cover gasket, water pump gasket.

      If you have access to a coolant system pressure tester, hook it up, put it under pressure, see where it comes out.

      Honestly I would replace all of those gaskets. It wouldn't hurt to pressure test it anyway but I would replace them all at the same time...the same stuff has to come off to do either the water pump or timing cover gaskets, and the intake gaskets are NOT far away.
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      - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

      - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

      - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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        #4
        My previous '91 had a small hose on the back of the block that was spewing coolant out onto the exhaust.
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        Slicktop '91 GS HO 4.30 rear. '82 Mark VI Tudor HO, '90 F-150 XLT, '62 project Heep, '89 Arizona Waggin' and '88 donor in PA, getting combined.

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          #5
          I hate to second-guess, but this is from personal experience with a leak that pooled in the same spot:

          Why are you 100% sure it's not the t-stat? I spent a good week (actually, a very shitty week) trying to re-seal the warped and corroded t-stat housing. A half dozen paper gaskets, two different liquid gasket types, different cure times, false starts that varied from incredibly slow leaks to full-throttle only leaks to leaks that didn't manifest until the car was sitting cooling at a friend's place after a 30 minute drive. If the leak is a pinhole at the bottom of the t-stat housing I found you could even run your hand over the offending area without getting it wet.


          Just food for thought.

          85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
          160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
          waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc

          06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)

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            #6
            Originally posted by johnunit View Post
            I hate to second-guess, but this is from personal experience with a leak that pooled in the same spot:

            Why are you 100% sure it's not the t-stat? I spent a good week (actually, a very shitty week) trying to re-seal the warped and corroded t-stat housing. A half dozen paper gaskets, two different liquid gasket types, different cure times, false starts that varied from incredibly slow leaks to full-throttle only leaks to leaks that didn't manifest until the car was sitting cooling at a friend's place after a 30 minute drive. If the leak is a pinhole at the bottom of the t-stat housing I found you could even run your hand over the offending area without getting it wet.


            Just food for thought.


            I can't find any leaks at the T-stat on mine. I haven't opened the front cover yet so the source of the same leak pooling remains unknown.


            Thanks for the idea though, I had ruled it out because it was recently replaced along with the hoses, tstat, water pump but I never did the timing cover gasket.
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            - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

            - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

            - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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              #7
              intake manifold gasket mostlikely

              1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
              2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
              1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
              1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
              2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
              1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

              please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                #8
                weep hole behind the water pump is just below that bolt directly over the coolant in the first picture. that's where my Mark was leaking. probably needs water pump seals or new water pump.

                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                Originally posted by gadget73
                ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                Originally posted by dmccaig
                Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 1990LTD View Post
                  I can't find any leaks at the T-stat on mine. I haven't opened the front cover yet so the source of the same leak pooling remains unknown.


                  Thanks for the idea though, I had ruled it out because it was recently replaced along with the hoses, tstat, water pump but I never did the timing cover gasket.
                  Just because something was serviced, doesn't mean it was done correctly. A certain Mark VII owner that came for a rack and pinion and oil pan gasket after Scottfest, complained of leaking coolant in that area. Even after he replaced the T-stat gasket twice. Cleaning the surfaces to the best they could be, a nice amount of blue RTV (yes I use blue RTV. I don't have any issues with it. To each his own however), a paper gasket (with a sticky side VERY HELPFUL, [didn't know about it the first time around, I did it twice because Scott pointed it out. Thanks lol.]), and blamo all done.

                  Also, check your clamps, just because they're new doesn't mean shit. Some come loose and will cause hoses to leak, and potentially blow off of the neck. BTDT

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                    #10
                    i check hose clamp tightness like every other oil change

                    1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                    2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                    1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                    1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
                    2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
                    1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                    please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                      #11
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                      did a pressure test, coolant leak in top of timing chain cover. is this a crack, or rust hole in the cover or a weep hole ? any clue
                      the cover is aluminum
                      WARNING: Above advise is based on actual experience or just plain common sense. In the event said advise is determined to be incorrect you are entitled to a full refund of exactly what you paid for it.lol
                      85 LTD Crown Vic Coupe 302 CFI Dual Exhaust No Cats Thrush Welds
                      pwr windows, locks, seat, antenna
                      cruise, tilt, white on white, maroon interior

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                        #12
                        *though* the top of the timing cover? How weird.

                        Will need to pop that off and repair it - either find a replacement in your price range, or find someone competent in brazing or welding aluminum. A shop across town from me will weld up anything starting at $25; I had them fix a cracked aluminum oilpan once.
                        2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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                          #13
                          if you mean the little hole in the top of the timing cover that is directly behind the water pump... it's a weep hole.

                          Here's a pic of the one on my Mark's engine since it's actually semi clean in there...

                          The blue circle is around the weep hole.
                          The red arrow points to the front of the car.
                          the green arrow points to the water pump.
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                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                          Originally posted by dmccaig
                          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                            #14
                            what's the hole there for? maybe that's where mine is leaking from...it's not wet anywhere else
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                            - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

                            - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

                            - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by slymer View Post
                              if you mean the little hole in the top of the timing cover that is directly behind the water pump... it's a weep hole.

                              Here's a pic of the one on my Mark's engine since it's actually semi clean in there...

                              The blue circle is around the weep hole.
                              The red arrow points to the front of the car.
                              the green arrow points to the water pump.
                              ok its a weep why ? and why is it leaking any ideas
                              WARNING: Above advise is based on actual experience or just plain common sense. In the event said advise is determined to be incorrect you are entitled to a full refund of exactly what you paid for it.lol
                              85 LTD Crown Vic Coupe 302 CFI Dual Exhaust No Cats Thrush Welds
                              pwr windows, locks, seat, antenna
                              cruise, tilt, white on white, maroon interior

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