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    #31
    Thanks. Rebuilt at 170 k.

    Donald
    1989 CP Scottified steering, suspension and big brakes, 16 in wheels, A-pillar oil & temp gauges, remote entry, backup sensor, tailgate wiper, custom console & trash, tranny & ps coolers, 3 cell radiator, electric fan, dual exhausts, battery isolator, hellas headlights,deer pusher,wads of dog hair.

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      #32
      I'm selling a house, so anything I dream is is bench racing so to speak, until that darn house and other stuff is paid off.

      So, my goal on my 83 351 unit is to build it for bottom end torque. Already hast the highway gears being a Highway Patrol spec car. I have a the performer intake waiting, will go with the appropriate idle to 5000 rpm cam and replace that evil VV carb for starters. Just making those changes would probably boost mpg on mine.

      High torque and tall gearing is what I'm thinking, then move on to improving the heads and valve train. Improve efficiency and reduce friction. Switch to electric fans, etc.


      Had 91 F150 with 300 six, 5 speed. Recorded 26 mpg riding around the back roads. Best my current 98 F150 with 4.2 ever got was 19mpg heading down hill. (but that 4.2 will leave either of my Vicks plus pull up hedges)

      Love the 300 over the 4.2 for sure!!

      Probably should just sell the P43 and the Waggin and pick me up a nice 03 Vick or Marq.
      Last edited by tamalpass; 02-28-2011, 11:51 AM.

      T.A. Malpass 83 LTD Crown Victoria P43

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        #33
        Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
        I said that a couple years back...now I also drive a 4 cylinder Escort as a daily driver.
        x2 that's why I got my 94 geo prizm

        1989 mercury grand marquis gs / 2014 ford focus s daily driver
        302 lopo with ho upper/ aod with trans go shift kit
        k code 3:55 posi rear/big brake swap tow package car

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          #34
          The lack of acceleration the 300 has doesn't really slow down with a load behind it. Your chevy may be faster, but my old stock 351w bronco would drag it wherever I felt like it. Chevy's just make more hp. Change the exhaust on a ford and you will be amazed.
          1989 Grand Marquis LS
          flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mph

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            #35
            a TT pushrod panther would be AWESOME
            1988 MGM GS - Preferred Equipment Package 172A; InstaClear

            1980 Lincoln Continental Coupe
            1994 MGM GS Montigua
            2005 F150 Lariat Scab 4x4 3.73 LS
            2002 Mustang GT Coupe

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              #36
              Originally posted by Southern_Pride View Post
              The lack of acceleration the 300 has doesn't really slow down with a load behind it. Your chevy may be faster, but my old stock 351w bronco would drag it wherever I felt like it. Chevy's just make more hp. Change the exhaust on a ford and you will be amazed.
              I have to disagree. The 350 and 351 both make more peak torque and torque under the curve than a 300-6. The 1996 4.9 in-line six produced 145 horsepower at 3,400 rpm and 265 foot-pounds of torque at 2,000 rpm.

              Read more: 96 Ford 4.9L Specs | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7565368_96-...#ixzz1FZGjatdm

              The V8's make more than that at 2000 and continue to climb in both torque and hp. My vote would be something in the 3.5-4.0L range boosting 10-15#, assuming the boosted small engine concept were helpful in fuel economy. As I'm typing this I just remembered the T-bird super coupe engine. Instinct tells me though that it's in one of the many above posts. So SC 3.8, pulley, full exhaust, and a tune. Throw in a 5 speed and e-fans. The car would lose a little weight in the process and you could reduce the weight in front of the wheel centerline, thus improving handling. Don't forget meth injection or a water to air intercooler. Sounds like it'd be a neat project, of course it'd run a lot harder with an appropriately sized turbo. Maybe twincharge it? Any takers?
              1992 CVLX. 5.0 HO/GT40P/T5/3.73/trak-lok with bolt ons. 02 front CVPI setup, rear HPP setup, CVPI shocks around, F250 radiator, e-fans, and the power of 3G. 15.92@89mph, 2.4 60', 4700' elevation (5500' DA) with 3.08 open rear and the old oil chugging 289. RIP.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Smokestacklightnin View Post
                A 2.3 in a panther!? Well i guess you can give it a try. Before you do that, you may want to try and pick a turd up from the clean end and see how that works out.
                HA that made my day...well...no sir it didnt. anyone got any reccomendations on changing the timing chain and sprockets. Ive got em on the way from napa.
                1985 Mercury Grand Marquis ls-302 CFI
                Carb swap planned .
                c90 heads
                475 lift cam
                Weind stealth intake(looking for reasonable air gap or manifold for 2bblsidedraft)
                Built aod(want c6 tryin to fin vac mod model)
                331 stroker kit
                Work in progress

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                  #38
                  Ya know it'd be really expensive and not worth it, much like all the mods I've done to my car, but if you were going to track your car you could twincharge the 2.3. The blower would allow it to spool a turbo as well as a 3.5-4L engine, and the turbo would only make it faster from there. The entire package would again fit farther back with the only caveat being whether or not all that plumbing saves an appreciable amount of weight.
                  1992 CVLX. 5.0 HO/GT40P/T5/3.73/trak-lok with bolt ons. 02 front CVPI setup, rear HPP setup, CVPI shocks around, F250 radiator, e-fans, and the power of 3G. 15.92@89mph, 2.4 60', 4700' elevation (5500' DA) with 3.08 open rear and the old oil chugging 289. RIP.

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                    #39
                    Perhaps take the turbo off of the 2.3L and stick it on a 5.0L HO?



                    Packman

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by packman View Post
                      Perhaps take the turbo off of the 2.3L and stick it on a 5.0L HO?



                      Packman
                      x2 (do this twice to the same 5.0l ... make it a TT)

                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                      rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                      Originally posted by dmccaig
                      Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by packman View Post
                        Perhaps take the turbo off of the 2.3L and stick it on a 5.0L HO?



                        Packman
                        What slymer said. The 2.3L turbo was 200-ish hp stock IIRC. That means it'd make the same on a 5.0L while choking the crap out of it. 2 would be good.
                        1992 CVLX. 5.0 HO/GT40P/T5/3.73/trak-lok with bolt ons. 02 front CVPI setup, rear HPP setup, CVPI shocks around, F250 radiator, e-fans, and the power of 3G. 15.92@89mph, 2.4 60', 4700' elevation (5500' DA) with 3.08 open rear and the old oil chugging 289. RIP.

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