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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    over about 85F I wouldn't expect the compressor to cycle if the blower is on full go. If yours is, it probably wants a little more juice. It does usually want a couple minutes of run time before things settle though. You can see that on the gauges if you turn it on from sitting.


    Are yours the fittings that have the push rod that just pokes at the valve in the R12 port? Those seem extra prone to leaking. I like the kind where you pull the stem out of the R12 port and the 134a fitting has it's own.

    Just at the low side has the push rod. I removed the fitting and it still leaks at just the r12 port on the drier.

    The high side fitting I placed an adapter that just goes over the whole deal no extra schrader.

    Either way the leak is extremely small but present none the less.

    Any way you can comment on the video I have linked to my cars gauges in action?

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    Pressure might be a bit low, if thats at idle the low side will swing further down with throttle and the compressor will probably start to cycle. Drop-out is somewhere in the 20-25 psi range and it looks like you're right there. low side will be higher if the blower is at full go because its dumping more heat into the evaporator. The high side pressure should tend to be a little lower with the new condenser vs the old style just for efficiency reasons.

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    That video is at idle with fan on low.

    I also picked up the conversion fittings for eliminating the r12 schrader on the low side...My high side conversion fitting utilizes no extra push rod schrader. I also have new schrader valves ready to go. Last step is picking up a big ol jug of r134a. Thinking of just picking up a 30# one. Cost seems extremely fair.
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    Yeah... you need more gas in there. You shouldn't be able to pull below 30psi at idle... and preferably 35psi.

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    Excellent. All things to look for. Much appreciated. We'll see how long the juice stays in before I completely suck down the system, change out the schraders valve on the high side and remove the schrader and replace it with the new adapter on the low side.



    IN other news....



    The 2.73's made it late. lol


    An I wonder what paint color the other 25 cars had that wore the brown vinyl top?
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    Wow only 4 cars made with that paint and trim code. That's pretty crazy! Yours is probably the only one left out there.

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    Yeah, my thoughts exactly. And I thought my Town Car was rare.

    A Trac-Lok 2.73. Cool. Didn't your dad order that car new?
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    I didn’t realize your car was a leather to begin with.

    I’ve been crossing the ancient production numbers in my signature with kishy’s reports and they have been correct. What boggles my mind is that, according to this one, there would have been over 1000 351 tudors in 87 which seems excessive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekTheGreat View Post
    Yeah, my thoughts exactly. And I thought my Town Car was rare.

    A Trac-Lok 2.73. Cool. Didn't your dad order that car new?
    Not quite. My father serviced it since inception. He worked at Universal Ford.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    I didn’t realize your car was a leather to begin with.

    I’ve been crossing the ancient production numbers in my signature with kishy’s reports and they have been correct. What boggles my mind is that, according to this one, there would have been over 1000 351 tudors in 87 which seems excessive.
    I was pondering the same about the engine situation. Makes you wonder what numbers are correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    I was pondering the same about the engine situation. Makes you wonder what numbers are correct.
    I’m gonna lean on Marti being correct. Mine came out of a book I found at my parents house from 1996. I am wondering about the LX designation for tudors in 1987. Maybe most of that missing 1000+ are non LX deuces?
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    I wonder if its actually a 1 of 1 if you figure the other mix of options and such. Wouldn't be hard to get from 1 of 4 to 1 of 1. The traction lock alone might do it.

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    We may never know. I was surprised seeing that figure to say the least.




    AC still works good. 45 vent temp in this SUPER humid day.



    And a quick shot of the hood hinges that I mentioned previously:






    Makes me want to strip the cowl and firewall and shine all that up.....aint gonna happen....

    OH almost forgot..in the engine bay shot you can see my powder coated lightning engine plaque:



    It was powder coated gloss black then mocha metallic. Kinda matches the car!

    Old one that I painted was failing:



    Did it all myself After stripping the previously painted one:



    Ready for powder:

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    Color matched engine plate. Nice.

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    Beautiful!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    That video is at idle with fan on low.

    I also picked up the conversion fittings for eliminating the r12 schrader on the low side...My high side conversion fitting utilizes no extra push rod schrader. I also have new schrader valves ready to go. Last step is picking up a big ol jug of r134a. Thinking of just picking up a 30# one. Cost seems extremely fair.
    Buying a 30# cylinder requires an EPA license. There were a bunch of changes in the regulations on refrigerants effective January 1st, 2018, and that is the biggest that effects automotive. The other one that you'll encounter is that all r134a cans manufactured after that date must have a self-sealing valve on them, so if your gauge/hose setup is made to pierce the top of the cans it likely won't work with the new cans without an adapter (but the adapters are cheep, ~$3 at most parts stores). Of course, if you do HVAC or mechanic work professionally, you already know this and probably already have the license, just throwing it out there for those who don't.
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    Interesting. Still been seeing the pierce top cans in my area at the FLAPS and Wally World.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMerc96 View Post
    Buying a 30# cylinder requires an EPA license. There were a bunch of changes in the regulations on refrigerants effective January 1st, 2018, and that is the biggest that effects automotive. The other one that you'll encounter is that all r134a cans manufactured after that date must have a self-sealing valve on them, so if your gauge/hose setup is made to pierce the top of the cans it likely won't work with the new cans without an adapter (but the adapters are cheep, ~$3 at most parts stores). Of course, if you do HVAC or mechanic work professionally, you already know this and probably already have the license, just throwing it out there for those who don't.

    I have the bottle in my possession.

    Yes about self sealing cans requiring new adapters. Had it all ready.

    I am no professional. Just an idiot with a bottle, a scale and a set of gauges.
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    Willing to let one of those lightning engine covers go?
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    Nope. I knew you would ask.
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