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    OK, so aparently I was wrong, and the Mustangs use the same starter for both auto and stick, so that rules some of my theory out. Could still be a misboxed unit tho, like something for a 302/351 truck - I know for a fact them things use different starters based on transmission type. When you get back home just pull yours and take it to a parts store and compare with what they have for a factory replacement, if the nose cone lenght and the gear offset and tooth count matches up then your issue is elsewhere.
    The ones who accomplish true greatness, are the foolish who keep pressing onward.
    The ones who accomplish nothing, are the wise who know when to quit.

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      New pipe was purchased and coolant nipple was lopped off and welded shut. Little epoxy was needed after a 110 PSI pressure test revealed a ver little leak. All pained up and dandy now.

      Here it is compared to a stock 1986 Panther pipe:



      New fuel pressure regulator was purchased since I was ordering things.

      BBK adjustable:



      Expecting it not to fit. lol

      ~David~

      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

      Originally posted by ootdega
      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

      Originally posted by gadget73
      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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        Distributor gear?
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        1985.03 Crown Vic. Coupe "CVGT" Build thread - china whirlybird, burnout machine.
        The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

        Originally posted by SVT98t
        It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

        That is how you're supposed to jack it.

        Up and down.

        -ryan s.

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          I had an AFPR go bad on me once, it was a cheap one tho. It would go from high to low at random while driving, made the car run really bad. It leaned out on me driving home one night, I popped the hood and the headers were all glowing red. I replaced it with a stock regulator and it was rock solid from then on. Eventually the rail mounted gauge shit out and started weeping fuel into the case, so it went away too.

          Better stuff probably holds up better, but just keep an eye on the gauge if it has one. If the fluid starts getting really dark, its probably mixing fuel in the glycerin from an internal leak.


          Where did you get the new heater pipe? I constantly fear for mine, its original and not exactly so amazing looking anymore.
          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

          Originally posted by phayzer5
          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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            You can make it fit... just need an adapter line from the fuel rail up to the FRP instead of direct mount.

            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
            rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
            Originally posted by gadget73
            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
            Originally posted by dmccaig
            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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              I actually got a complete set of adapter lines for an aftermarket (currently a "Vortech"-brand) FPR, they move the FPR between the rail and the frame line. Not sure what you do with the factory FPR in that setup, long while since it's been installed in a vehicle and I simply don't remember anymore... It's currently chilling on a shelf collecting dust cause my fuel injection pressures are slightly higher than what y'all are working with
              The ones who accomplish true greatness, are the foolish who keep pressing onward.
              The ones who accomplish nothing, are the wise who know when to quit.

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                Originally posted by His Royal Ghostliness View Post
                I actually got a complete set of adapter lines for an aftermarket (currently a "Vortech"-brand) FPR, they move the FPR between the rail and the frame line. Not sure what you do with the factory FPR in that setup, long while since it's been installed in a vehicle and I simply don't remember anymore... It's currently chilling on a shelf collecting dust cause my fuel injection pressures are slightly higher than what y'all are working with
                No way Jose.
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                1985.03 Crown Vic. Coupe "CVGT" Build thread - china whirlybird, burnout machine.
                The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

                Originally posted by SVT98t
                It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

                That is how you're supposed to jack it.

                Up and down.

                -ryan s.

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                  Originally posted by Bobcat View Post
                  Distributor gear?
                  Forgot to look. Its stock for an 87 Vic. Is this steel. I have not checked yet.....Forgot about it.

                  Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                  I had an AFPR go bad on me once, it was a cheap one tho. It would go from high to low at random while driving, made the car run really bad. It leaned out on me driving home one night, I popped the hood and the headers were all glowing red. I replaced it with a stock regulator and it was rock solid from then on. Eventually the rail mounted gauge shit out and started weeping fuel into the case, so it went away too.

                  Better stuff probably holds up better, but just keep an eye on the gauge if it has one. If the fluid starts getting really dark, its probably mixing fuel in the glycerin from an internal leak.


                  Where did you get the new heater pipe? I constantly fear for mine, its original and not exactly so amazing looking anymore.
                  This afpr was expensive. The pipe was from LMR. 80 bucks! But it is new and I dont want to fuck around so it is worth it.

                  Originally posted by sly View Post
                  You can make it fit... just need an adapter line from the fuel rail up to the FRP instead of direct mount.

                  It will either directly fit onto the rail with minimum coercion or directly fit back into its box waiting for a fox body install
                  ~David~

                  My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                  My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                  Originally posted by ootdega
                  My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                  Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                  But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                    87 dizzy gear should be roller which should be steel.

                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                    Originally posted by dmccaig
                    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                      yeah, 87 is steel. You're OK.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        Oh and to answer your other question about the AFPR....It has a port for a gauge but no gauge attached. Not planning on running one. The port looks to be in an unfavorable orientation so it got a plug threaded in.
                        ~David~

                        My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                        My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                        Originally posted by ootdega
                        My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                        Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                        But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                          Enough bickering! Does it do burnouts yet?

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                            Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                            yeah, 87 is steel. You're OK.
                            This

                            Originally posted by 86VickyLX View Post
                            Enough bickering! Does it do burnouts yet?
                            You're finally growing up :')
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                            1985.03 Crown Vic. Coupe "CVGT" Build thread - china whirlybird, burnout machine.
                            The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

                            Originally posted by SVT98t
                            It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

                            That is how you're supposed to jack it.

                            Up and down.

                            -ryan s.

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                              AFPR is on and clears everything much to my amazement. Says reuse stock hardware. BS Different thread pitches! Had to make some bolts up. Port for gauge leads DIRECTLY into an intake runner. No gauge ever to be installed there on this engine.

                              Mustang heater pipe installed and does not leak. Pressure tested the system to 16lbs. Nub left from existing coolant port to egr spacer was chopped down JUST enough to clear the upper intake. Kinda squishing a vaccum line atm.

                              Compression was checked on all cylinders. All were at 152ish but cylinder 8 at 145ish NBD.

                              All spark plugs were black on the tip. Not wet just dry black. They were gapped at 50. Reinstalled them gapped at 45.

                              Moates quarterhorse is in too. Still does not run.

                              Will remove number one spark plug and rotate engine until my finger blows away from the hole. Set the balancer to 10 and stab the dizzy so the rotor hits number one spark plug.

                              Will check for spark.

                              Will check for fuel pressure (as much as I can because the thing aint running).

                              Will check for firing order. 1,3,7,2,6,5,4,8

                              FML.

                              On a positive note...the hood closes just fine with the gt 40 tubular intake elevated 3/8" and my fancy retractable under hood light. Looks like I would have issues if I was running an egr. The bell would make contact with the hood for sure.

                              This is the one positive from the day.
                              ~David~

                              My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                              My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                              Originally posted by ootdega
                              My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                              Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                              But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                                Damn brother, you just can't catch a break with this thing...
                                The ones who accomplish true greatness, are the foolish who keep pressing onward.
                                The ones who accomplish nothing, are the wise who know when to quit.

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