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    On my yellow Capri I used an aluminum spacer and a flex fan.

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    I used the Hayden 2710 on my 88. It has worked well.

    The Motorcraft YB-327 is spec'd as the police/tow part. RA has one, as does eBay. https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/mo...an+clutch,6812

    The Motorcraft YB-328 is the standard duty part. There are on eBay as well.

    I am a little OCD and I don't like the universal fit bolt holes of the Hayden 2710. Like I said, it has functioned fine and I would buy another for a driver. For a car I really liked, I like the exact fit holes on the Motorcraft parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    I used the Hayden 2710 on my 88. It has worked well.

    The Motorcraft YB-327 is spec'd as the police/tow part. RA has one, as does eBay. https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/mo...an+clutch,6812

    The Motorcraft YB-328 is the standard duty part. There are on eBay as well.

    I am a little OCD and I don't like the universal fit bolt holes of the Hayden 2710. Like I said, it has functioned fine and I would buy another for a driver. For a car I really liked, I like the exact fit holes on the Motorcraft parts.
    Any idea if the motorcraft is thermal or not? Ebay ads suggest it is based upon provided photos...I like this option the best yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Any idea if the motorcraft is thermal or not? Ebay ads suggest it is based upon provided photos...I like this option the best yet.
    If it's got the coiled spring thing on the front, it's thermal.
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    Yeah it looks like it does based on the ebay ads. I went for it on RA which only had one picture and no vehicle fitment listings. Hope it fits.
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    must be the only one because nothing shows up now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    must be the only one because nothing shows up now.
    On RA there was only one available. It is on its way to my place. I guess they pull the listing if there is none in stock. Always weary about purchasing something with only one in stock. Never sure what you are going to get.




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    I LOVE IT. Nice solid chirps in 3rd!
    "Out of your league"?
    You have the "cool" factor, the black and silver ones have the "belly button" factor. (Keeping in mind I am a Mustang guy).

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    Probably my favorite of all your videos.

    You might start itching for one of those 5.0's with too many cams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitymerc View Post
    I LOVE IT. Nice solid chirps in 3rd!
    "Out of your league"?
    You have the "cool" factor, the black and silver ones have the "belly button" factor. (Keeping in mind I am a Mustang guy).
    Thanks Jim. Sure can say that. Wont see another one like mine.

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    Probably my favorite of all your videos.

    You might start itching for one of those 5.0's with too many cams.
    Thanks Ben.

    I said it to myself a couple times. If anything happens to this car..I am springing for a brand new top of the line mustang vert. I do like the new mustangs a lot even if everyone may have one.

    I wont be installing one into this car. Just going to enjoy what it has. It is loads of fun over stock form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post

    Some action from this morning:

    Wheel Hop... Have you checked your pinion angle?

    The later Fox cars had "Anti Hop" brackets that mounted between the axle & shock. I believe there are aftermarket iterations also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitymerc View Post
    Wheel Hop... Have you checked your pinion angle?

    The later Fox cars had "Anti Hop" brackets that mounted between the axle & shock. I believe there are aftermarket iterations also.

    What is good versus bad pinion angle?

    I have not checked anything but have read some believe pinion angle can in turn cause wheel hop and some don’t agree. Much like anything in life.

    I have dropped pretty penny for the adtr control arms (the uppers will allow me to tweak pinion angle if necessary) as well as spherical upper control arm axle bushings.

    I will have to look into the anti hop brackets as I have never hear of those before.
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    Looked at Stang & Vic, different shock mounts.... I think angle us something like 2-4 negative. I have not looked at it for a long time. The idea is that when under torque load the angle of the shaft is about 0.
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    wasn't that also part of what the quad shocks were supposed to deal with?

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    Yes

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    Well that is a no go then for me sans major modifications.
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    frame side would be easy, no idea what the axle side looks like. Guessing brackets could be made to get the job done but would need to study the fitment and spacing back there.

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    I dont have any spare rears anymore. Tried to get a pic w/o lifting car & removing wheel, no bueno.

    I have seen where people cut them off & then welded to a 9 inch.

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    Swapped out the fan clutch this morning whit the heavy duty unit tiggie linked. Works like a champ. Nice and solid with hot engine off trying to spin it.

    My spherical upper axle bushing came in...not going anywhere until I get the ADTR control arms.
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    The upper ones in the rear? I have them in the yellow capri. All other ends are spherical also. The articulation is ridiculous. Some have said to expect harshness, TBH in that car I never noticed a difference. It is by no means a touring car though.
    Last edited by mitymerc; 08-01-2020 at 11:34 AM. Reason: speeling

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    91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.

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