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    #16
    get 04 or 05. 05 had an external mounted antenna though. i believe the 05 had a tach too. don't quote me on that.

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      #17
      Im also getting my first whale. So far i think the 04 is the best, especially the p71. BTW werent there two engines for that year. I noticed it on the autozone website.
      2004 Ford Crown Victoria P71 (Frost-Bite)

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        #18
        One engine, but different engine code. The big difference on the police cars is they got a better airbox and MAF (Marauder parts actually) and a different air intake tube along with dual exhaust standard. I think it was good for 15 hp officially.
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          #19
          The drive by wire isn't bad at all. Pretty sure my '05 F150 has it and I can't tell the difference between it and my Explorer. Just like with a hydraulic clutch versus a cable clutch... you acclimate to the characteristics.
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            #20
            My brother's '04 F150 and my Mom's Beetle both have DBW,and it is highly noticeable to me. You can jump on and off the gas real fast, and nothing happens.

            In time you'd get used to it, but it is quite unusual going from something without DBW, to something with it.
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              #21
              Originally posted by P72Ford View Post
              My brother's '04 F150 and my Mom's Beetle both have DBW,and it is highly noticeable to me. You can jump on and off the gas real fast, and nothing happens.

              In time you'd get used to it, but it is quite unusual going from something without DBW, to something with it.
              I'd have to say the same. Not all DBW's are created equally, but they all piss me off. Not so much in an auto, but in a manual car they suck.

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                #22
                Originally posted by srv14624 View Post
                Im also getting my first whale. So far i think the 04 is the best, especially the p71. BTW werent there two engines for that year. I noticed it on the autozone website.
                You were probably seeing the 4.6 gasoline engine, and the 4.6 compressed natural gas engine.

                2001 Ford Crown Victoria P71 - "The Fire Engine"
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                  #23
                  Yeah I just figured that out
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                    #24
                    Newest car we have is a 99. DBW is a scary concept, and is that why the toyota tundras are being recalled, My bro said the pedals were sticking to the floor at WOT so to speak.
                    "Shakedown"- 1991 Grand Marquis GS Dual exhaust, Magnaflow xl turbos, Rear anti sway bar, Outlaw 1 wheels, 43k miles
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by 91grandmarquis View Post
                      Newest car we have is a 99. DBW is a scary concept, and is that why the toyota tundras are being recalled, My bro said the pedals were sticking to the floor at WOT so to speak.
                      Pirate posted a thread on this somewhere in here I think.

                      Back to whales, I'm having a hard time finding a P71 in my price range that will satisfy my OCD tendencies. As much as I like buckets, I think I like having somewhere to rest my arm even more.

                      I need to look harder. Just this morning I was on my way to pick up a minty Town and Country until I found out at the last minute that it had been sold.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by torquelover View Post
                        Pirate posted a thread on this somewhere in here I think.

                        Back to whales, I'm having a hard time finding a P71 in my price range that will satisfy my OCD tendencies. As much as I like buckets, I think I like having somewhere to rest my arm even more.

                        I need to look harder. Just this morning I was on my way to pick up a minty Town and Country until I found out at the last minute that it had been sold.
                        No Toyota's have floor mats that have like failing clips or something and they are sliding and wedging in the gas pedal...

                        And yeah torquelover thats why I got the grand marq. I couldn't find any decent P71's for a decent price. I'd find a beat to shit 1999 white one with 200k mi for like $1200 or a nice 2003 one for like $8000 still with over 100k. Only after I bought my car did I find some nice small-town P71's with 80K miles for $4-5k
                        1998 Mercury Grand Marquis 131k~ true duals, 2nd cat removed, H-pipe, Xcelerator Turbo mufflers, PI Manifold, 180* Tstat, K&N drop-in.
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by DriverSideImpact98 View Post
                          No Toyota's have floor mats that have like failing clips or something and they are sliding and wedging in the gas pedal...

                          And yeah torquelover thats why I got the grand marq. I couldn't find any decent P71's for a decent price. I'd find a beat to shit 1999 white one with 200k mi for like $1200 or a nice 2003 one for like $8000 still with over 100k. Only after I bought my car did I find some nice small-town P71's with 80K miles for $4-5k
                          I guess im lucky. I saw the same thing too with p71s until i saw mine.
                          2004 Ford Crown Victoria P71 (Frost-Bite)

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Cable Guys FGMQ View Post
                            I talked to a PA State Trooper on the 03 & up models the steelies from 03 to 05`s has cracked for rims 06 & up are the best for rims,, But on the 03`s they had rear end problems being the 1st year on the 2nd generation Whales 04 to present is the way to go,, But I own the 1st generation Whale on the old plateform 98 to 02 & I tend to like them better for the deep dish rims like the HPP`s ,, but both generations are great Panthers overall..
                            I drive a 2003 P71 and I have not had any problems at all. I love it.I will be keeping the steel wheels because they remind me of the old 60s and 70 musscle cars.
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by torquelover View Post

                              I need to look harder. Just this morning I was on my way to pick up a minty Town and Country until I found out at the last minute that it had been sold.
                              Thank God. Jesus must love you, to have some other poor schmuck buy it out from under you. Those minivans are heaps.

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                                #30
                                I'd completely missed this comment ....

                                Originally posted by torquelover View Post
                                I need to look harder. Just this morning I was on my way to pick up a minty Town and Country until I found out at the last minute that it had been sold.
                                :jawdrop:

                                Need some of us to stop by for some counseling and intervention? :smirk:





                                BTW, a couple weeks ago I found myself stopped for a while in a little town that had a whale Grand Marquis as one of their patrol cars. I found that vaguely amusing for some reason.
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