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    fuck no, not today, thank you kindly 1990LTD's Avatar
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    Default KYB: gr2 vs gas-a-just?

    What's the deal?



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    pretty sure that gas-a-just is a variable rate shock, that works like variable rate springs--the more you compress it the firmer it gets. But I could be wrong.

    What I'm sure of is that both gr2 and gas-a-just shocks have gotten excellent reviews by members of this forum, and it's unlikely you'd go wrong with either one.

    What you should know is the only difference between police and non-police shocks is the valving. They fit the same.

    For example: I have gr2's with police valving on my civilian-spec wagon, and the difference in the handling was pretty impressive, even with my mostly worn-out springs. Unless you're really into the "nothing gets through" ride of your vehicle as is, you will definitely appreciate the somewhat firmer police shocks.
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    thanks!



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    - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

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    ....and I like the non-road feel that exists in these cars, but don't much like bottoming out ever or dipping so much in a corner



    and, besides, cop shocks

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    - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

    - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

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    the gas a justs have a higher gas charge......they are a little stiffer than the gr2's

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    The standard GR2 is a little firmer than stock, police a little firmer than that, and the gas-a-just the firmest of the 3. Police shocks are a nice middle ground, and probably are what I'll change to next I need shocks.

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    Suspension: Bridgestone Protenza G019 225/60/16 on LSC turbines, 1 3/16" wagon front bar, 1" PI rear bar, cargo coils, KYB GR-2 shocks, big front brakes, ES poly front suspension bushings, 00 CVPI steering box, ES poly body mounts, rear disc brakes

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    i've got a cop sway bar, wagon coils and gas-a-justs and love the setup. thier not to stiff at all but make the ass end feel really good handling wise. They are also designed to give better traction because the design uses the gas charge to always be pushing downward on the tire to the pavement. It didn't make sense to me but i would spin off the line with stock shocks, and i didn't after the gas-a-justs... but with gears and motor mods i spin again haha.
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    interesting.... maybe next time i need shocks ill upgrade to the gas-a-just! You say that the ride harshness didnt really seem to increase that much?
    -Phil



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    I will like it muchly if it doesn't give the car a harsher ride



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    I just put GR2s on my 85 towncar, and had gas-a-justs on my 97 Grand Marq. Not exactly apples to apples but I liked the gas-a-justs better, firmer but not harsh imo.

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    I just got a quote from the same place that did my mufflers..KYB gas-a-just cop shocks all around, with Moog regular rate wagon springs in the rear and cop springs in the front, $1000 installed.



    So, who wants to tell me how to replace shocks and springs?



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    - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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    Holy shit.
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    I can get the shocks and springs for about half of that. Not a fucking chance I'm paying 500 dollars worth of labor to install shocks and springs.


    I have no idea how to remove the current ones and replace them, I imagine I need some kind of spring compressor to get them out/in. As for the shocks, do they just unbolt at each end/eye?


    Would it really be that hard to learn and do for myself?


    A member here offered to sell me his almost-new springs when he redoes his suspension soon. I have no idea how much these are going to cost or how many miles will be on them, but if they're Moog I don't think a few miles will have hurt them too badly

    What do you guys think, do I wait and buy the springs from the GMNer and buy the shocks and do all of the work myself? Or are used springs a no-no?
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    - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

    - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

    - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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    I was mistaken. RockAuto price for gr2s, moog variable wagon rear and sedan hd front

    Total $700.34


    283 of that is shipping



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    - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

    - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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    WOW! that seems aweful high for parts....hmm the rear is easy jack the rear of the car up, place jack stands under it for safety, support the axle with jacks....the rear shocks just unbolt and come out, then slowly lower the axle and you will be able to remove the rear springs by hand....opposite process to install, i think thats all for the rear....the fronts more of a bitch, I'll let someone else explain that

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    Forget what I said, for some reason (I'm thinking autocomplete or something) it filled in the quantity fields as 2 when I put the coils in my cart AFTER I put 2x for front and rear shocks


    415 shipped. That's better.



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    ahhhh i was gunna say! lol, yeah that is much better.
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    Do you need to do shocks and springs at the same time? I would like to, to make things more efficient, but if possible I may do shocks first and springs later. If it's easier to do it all at once that's the way I will try to go.



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    It will be less time consuming to do them all at once, and a bit easier, but it can be done separately.
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    500 labor to change 4 shocks, 4 springs sounds about right.....front springs are a pita and the rear shocks are a pita......lotta time involved there

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