pressing the new bushings into place (pushing the old rubber out) and cutting the old ones off the bar? Idea popped in my head... dunno if it's workable though.
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Originally posted by slymer View Postpressing the new bushings into place (pushing the old rubber out) and cutting the old ones off the bar? Idea popped in my head... dunno if it's workable though.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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Originally posted by 1987cp View PostPressing? Bar? You done lost me .... once the old bushings are out and the shells have been cleaned somewhat, the new ES ones just shove in by hand .....
pressing: using a bushing tool to press the new core into the old shells and displace the old core in the process
example of said tool: http://www.tooltopia.com/astro-pneumatic-7866.aspx
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Originally posted by gadget73... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.Originally posted by dmccaigOverhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.
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Interesting, I had not heard of a press tool designed to remove the old bushing while leaving the shell. The Injection Brothers insist the upper bushings should pop right out with only heat, just like the lowers, though obviously mine didn't cooperate that way.
Must find pics of this tool in use. If it can indeed be used with the shaft in place (since the shaft won't come out till the bushings are out), possibly it could have saved the hassle of digging molten bushing out with a screwdriver?Last edited by 1987cp; 05-31-2010, 08:37 AM.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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the tool is designed to remove the shells. I was thinking of the install method being used to press the new core in to displace the old rubber core onto the rod and then cut the old rubber core off from there. not sure if the new cores are that strong though so it might not be a good idea after all.
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Originally posted by gadget73... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.Originally posted by dmccaigOverhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.
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Oh. Hm. I could maybe see that plan working if the old bushings aren't firmly adhered to the shells like mine were. The ridge on the outside could be cut off beforehand ... and you'd have to have no washer on the inside (the ones I rebuilt had that on one side on each one). But even then, I suspect the new bushings would have to be completely solid or nearly so - the polyurethene ES uses is flexible enough that I doubt it would work well to press with.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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after thinking about it I figured that would be the case. oh well. bad idea comes and goes.
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Originally posted by gadget73... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.Originally posted by dmccaigOverhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.
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I've melted the old bushings out. The shells won't come out with heat, but if you apply enough fire the rubber oozes out. If it doesn't pop out on it's own, then a little push on one side with a suitable poking device will get it motivated. if you're using rubber bushings, then you have to take something and slice the shell to collapse it so it will pull out.
Not sure if you can just press the rubber core out of a new bushing and into the old one without destroying it. The rubber is supposed to be bonded to the outer shell, and I'd expect it to expand once its out of the shell so I can't imagine it not being a horrible excersize to try and put it back together again. The single biggest reason I used poly on my car was ease of install. I've seen the rubber ones pressed in and out, F that.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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Agreed, with 2 days on the TC, and LCAs on a 02 PT Cruiser, I love them, wayyyy better than rubber.
I suspect at the wholesale level rubber bushings are a lot cheaper than poly.
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