2 ton paperweight.

[Baker]

ok my 87 gm is going to kiss a wall if I can't figure out what the hell is wrong with her.

I'll go to start, engine turns over and the starter continues to crank reguardless of running idle. Go to shut off, starter still tries to turn the engine over! The only way I can stop it is by disconnecting the battery.

So far, I have brand new battery cables, went through a starter or two, couple of solenoid relays (currently have a heavy duty relay installed). I went through that circuit with a fine tooth comb and found NO opens in wiring, anywhere.

I heard a rumor that it might be the ignition switch itself sticking in the first crank, which would make a little sense considering it hadn't done it a week or two after the new starter was installed. I was thinking with a new starter, just bumping the ignition cranks her over.

If anyone knows what is going on here help me out before I make a two ton molotov in my driveway!

[sly]

if you're replaced the starter solenoid (relay) already and it's still doing it, it's the column switch then. next time it does that... remove the little red wire from the starter relay on the fender and see if that stops it. if it does, it's damn sure the ignition switch in the column.

[1990LTD]

what he said. the solenoids have been known to do this.

[GM_Guy]

Hook up a voltmeter to that little red wire on the starter solenoid. Go turn the key and watch the meter. If it keeps reading 12v after the key returns to run you've got a switch problem. If it returns to zero consistantly, you need to find someplace else to buy a relay. If your buying them at autozone, get one from napa.

Alex.

[visionmercury]

its the ingntion switch in the colume mine did that about a yr ago and never have had a problem since , were in the stl are you ?

[Baker]

its the ingntion switch in the colume mine did that about a yr ago and never have had a problem since , were in the stl are you ?

I say stl because everyone knows where it is. I actually live in Madison, IL about a mile north of the gateway racetrack. Your in O'fallon? I'd love to take a look at your rides sometime!

[Steve'87]

I dunno, there seems to be a bunch of crappy starter solenoids lately. I replaced one on an '88 F150 at work, and it did that same thing, took that one back and got another, and the second one is doing it as well. And these were the "premium" solenoids.

[Baker]

Well, this car always had an issue when it comes to solenoids. I've been running it since last christmas and their have been 4 solenoids installed. The 4th one is the heavy duty I bought from autozone and it seemed awsome when in use. I really hope it isn't the solenoid because this car is going to turn into a molotov if it is.

[GM_Guy]

Blame the car for 3rd party faulty components.
Get a voltmeter and check.

Alex.

[sxcpotatoes]

Blame the car for 3rd party faulty components.
Get a voltmeter and check.

Alex.

Step 3: ?????

Step 4: Profit!

[gadget73]

If the relay is faulty, and it was just recently replaced, replace it and the starter. Often when the starters begin to fail, they draw excess current and nuke the relay. You can change relays until you're blue in the face but if that starter is the real problem, they're gonna continue to fail until you replace it.

[Tiggie]

Beat on the starter with a rod. I have seen the starter bendix stick more than a relay stick in the on position.

[Baker]

The new (3rd starter now) is about 2 weeks old.

On the ignition switch, the haynes manual says something about pulling the steering wheel off. Has anyone ever had to do this?

[sly]

just pop the column covers off... you should be able to get to it.

[91waggin]

If you continue to have problems, switch to the mini starter that came on 91s. I am still on my original fender mounted relay.