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    #16
    very nice write up john...

    may i suggest rather than having it suck out off the reservoir to "burp" the system by putting a funnel in the radiator fill hole, filling it with coolant. turning the heat all the way on, then running the car to operating temperature and wait until bubbles stop coming out of the funnel

    both methods work, however i tend to like this better, also certain contaminants can float to the surface of the funnel and then be removed with this method if there are any.
    -Phil

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      #17
      Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
      IDK but that is the way a Ford certified technician does it.
      it's called flat rate, look it up sometime.
      Technicians cut corners to make stuff go faster. So they can get paid for a job that supposed to take 4 hours into something closer to 2.5 hours.
      Last edited by 86VickyLX; 01-23-2011, 01:17 PM.

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        #18
        My dad charges me flat rate.
        ~David~

        My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
        My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

        Originally posted by ootdega
        My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

        Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
        But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

        Originally posted by gadget73
        my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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          #19
          Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
          My dad charges me flat rate.
          i wish my dad was a ford tech.
          1988 MGM GS - Preferred Equipment Package 172A; InstaClear

          1980 Lincoln Continental Coupe
          1994 MGM GS Montigua
          2005 F150 Lariat Scab 4x4 3.73 LS
          2002 Mustang GT Coupe

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            #20
            It sure comes in handy I tell ya'. If he wasn't into cars I most definitely would not be here right now.
            ~David~

            My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
            My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

            Originally posted by ootdega
            My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

            Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
            But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

            Originally posted by gadget73
            my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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              #21
              Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
              It sure comes in handy I tell ya'. If he wasn't into cars I most definitely would not be here right now.
              those car shows as kids sure paid off for us, huh? hah
              1988 MGM GS - Preferred Equipment Package 172A; InstaClear

              1980 Lincoln Continental Coupe
              1994 MGM GS Montigua
              2005 F150 Lariat Scab 4x4 3.73 LS
              2002 Mustang GT Coupe

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                #22
                Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                My dad charges me flat rate.

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                  #23
                  Pics and more pics

                  Here's some necessary pics to find those nuts and bolts that hare hard to find/get to for removing the plenum and some tricks to keep from losing stuff.

                  Trick #1: Dash Pad screws. Magnetic grabber on the ends while unscrewing.


                  Trick #2: Cellphone torx driver (T-6) for the set screw if you have one of the non-clip on headlight knobs.


                  Trick #3: This may be a requirement depending on your tool-set. Right angle screwdriver. (There's 5 screws along the edge of the dash here that attach the dash to the car)


                  Bolts:
                  Driver side and passenger side behind kick panels. (one also tucked behind the driver side of the ash tray)


                  Behind the instrument cluster (accessible from below... directly above the steering shaft)


                  Close up - Nut on bottom.


                  Engine bay side:
                  Top just to the right of the heater core pipes


                  Below the plenum... straight down from the top one

                  There are two nuts on the interior side of this nut.

                  Once the dash is loose and the 4 nuts are off of the plenum... it should come off. Mine needed a panel remover (re: small crow bar) persuasion to come off of the two bottom studs though.

                  The rest is very easy to see. Two screws to take the blend door actuator out of the way... and the speed nut off the blend door rod to release the actuator. Then the 4 screws over the heater core... and out it comes. Reverse to install of course.

                  I'll post a pic of the center lower mount bolt and the actuator screws later since I forgot to take those pictures this time around.
                  Attached Files

                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                  rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                  Originally posted by dmccaig
                  Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                    #24
                    ok... here's the missing pics.

                    Lower mount bolt near ash tray:


                    up close:


                    Blend door actuator removal:
                    Two screws in the bracket on either side:


                    Then remove the speed nut:


                    Then remove the 4 screws that hold down the core:


                    This pic was after everything was back in and the lower part of the plenup was resting on the bolts. I was about to bolt it all back in and then remembered to take pictures. New core is aluminum. Old core is on a shelf and repairable. It leaked around the pipe where it goes into the core housing. A good clean and re-slobber (re: solder) and it should be fine. To bolt the plenum back up... I just stuck two fingers into the core pipes and pulled enough to get the bolt out of the firewall and put the nut on it with my other hand. Wasn't that difficult. Now if you don't have regular fingers like I do (ie: you got some really big hands/fat fingers)... use the best way: get someone hold the plenum against the firewall.

                    Now we just need an admin/mod to merge all these pics with the first post and make a sticky
                    Attached Files

                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                    Originally posted by dmccaig
                    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                      #25
                      jesus christ, I do not look forward to this.
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                      - 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims

                      - 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust

                      - 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock

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                        #26
                        other than my back being really sore and a few scrapes on my hands from cleaning the windshield afterwards (scratched up my hands with the broken to hell speaker holes... damn sharp plastic edges)... it's mainly just time consuming. You will want the engine to be cold though. That lower nut is so close to so much exhaust, it's not funny.

                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                        Originally posted by gadget73
                        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                        Originally posted by dmccaig
                        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                          #27
                          so how long(start-finnish) did this heater core swap take you?

                          1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
                          1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
                          1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
                          2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
                          2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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                            #28
                            started around 8:30am... finished about 4pm. had to wait 1.5 hours to get the heater core and re-greasing the speedo cable took about 10 minutes... so actual work time was about 6 hours.

                            This is also the first time I've ever done this on a panther, but I'm very mechanically inclined and also very meticulous... so the last two may cancel each other out. :p

                            at any rate, it's done and the car is happy.

                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                            rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                            Originally posted by dmccaig
                            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                              #29
                              Interesting, that bolt under the center of the dash must be an ATC only thing, since the 88 Grand Marquis and my 86 Crown Vic did not have that bolt.

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                                #30
                                Jesus! Is it that bad? I even need to unbolt the steering column (however that bolts on)??
                                I'm wondering if I might finally do mine tomorrow... 6 hrs, truly?

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