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    Default ClifFORD - the big red truck

    Brought it to the shop tonight... it ran out of gas on the way (luckily I brought some) and it gave me a sputtering/stalling spell soon afterwords, but smoothed out by the last leg. I'm hoping I just sucked up junk in the fuel filter...

    So far I know it needs a center link, the headlight switch is a little wonky, tires aren't great, and the valve cover gaskets are leaking but not as much as I thought.
    Fuel and oil pressure gauges don't work, and the trans seems to shift a little late, and not downshift soon enough. Once its in gear it seems to go fine... Hopefully the TV cable is kinked or something simple
    This is what I know before getting it on a lift. Keep your fingers crossed I didn't just shoot myself in the foot!

    I spent my tax return on it...
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    the sputtering was probably just cleaning air out of the lines from running it dry.

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    Very a nice! How much?
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    coming to haul my coal?

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    That has got a nice big bed!
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    Checked it out today at lunch... and found out a few things.

    I found newish/recently replaced: front brakes and hoses, rear shoes, starter, cap/wires/plugs, ECT sensor, non-original TFI module, rear shocks, belts and hoses, and U-joints.

    It still had a rough idle and stalled a few times bringing it into the shop. The fuel filter gave a little resistance when i blew through it, so I put a new one in and it didn't stall backing it out, seemed to run good for a couple laps around the parking lot. Still idled a little sketchy, Im gonna try a spare IAC on it, I saw someone had been monkeying with the throttle stop screw.
    I found the ATF fluid was a low, and the TV/detent/kick-down (not sure what its called on this transmission) cable has about an inch of slack in it at the throttle end. Its a weird setup, Im gonna take a pic of it later and see if anyone knows whats up.
    Also I saw it had a vacuum modulator valve (making this a C4-C6 maybe???) that i plan to change if other efforts don't get it shifting better. I've heard C4/C6's handle mis-adjustments better so that put my mind at ease a little.
    The pinion gear seemed to have play in it, a co-worker looked at it and said he thinks the nut it just loose. Gonna try to tighten that up later too...
    The center link wasn't as bad as i thought, I think the bulk of the squirrely steering was due to all the tires only having 10-15 psi in them. I'll probably change that later once i get it running good.
    The tires definitely aren't that great, I'll probably take the ones of my turbines and put them on this.
    Its also got two trailer wiring harnesses, but just a ball in the bumper.

    Everything else seems ok, no compromising rust underneath, ball joints seem ok, didn't see any wiped out suspension or radius arm bushings.

    If all goes well, I'll be using it this spring for junk/scrap/brush/gravel/mulch hauling and then try to sell it this summer for 1,500.

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    What engine?
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    looks like a nice truck.

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    5.0 I'm guessing. The label under the hood is MIA... haven't gotten more than an hour of tender lovin' time with it yet. How can I tell 5.0 vs 5.8 otherwise anyway? lol

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    should say right on the upper intake in big numbers and letters, so you wont need your glasses lol

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    or look at the dizzy... if it has a wall behind the hole... 351. pretty level behind the hole... 302.

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    I like the name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slymer View Post
    or look at the dizzy... if it has a wall behind the hole... 351. pretty level behind the hole... 302.
    and the bolts for the T-stat are easy to get at with a socket, on a 351W

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    A 351 will have 5.8 EFI cast into the top of the upper intake. It will also have a dual throttle body. The 5.0 I think has a smooth upper intake. Both intakes are considerably taller then their Panther cousins.

    The dual throttle body.
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    Hmmm... well it has the twin-butterfly TB and orange injectors. No engine sizing on the upper, can't see the lower good enough to read anything. Its hard to get a good line of sight behind the dizzy and the lower T-stat bolt...

    We did a VIN look-up on it at work, and it says its a 5.0. hhhmmmm



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    prolly a 5L then. i think 5.8Ls were more popular with ext cab trucks. but still, should be good enough for what you need it for.

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    Nice truck. Now you can get more parts at the JY.



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    Where are you gonna park it? Aren't you taking up 3 spaces already?
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    I have room for 5 without blocking anything in, more if I want to park in the grass

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