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    Ok so I'm thinking about removing my upper intake tonight to look for signs of my mysterious vacuum leak and I was wondering just how difficult a task this is. I'm thinking unhook throttle linkage remove tps and egr valve unbolt intake and remove or am I missing something?
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    #2
    Don't even need to remove the EGR valve.


    Unplug the IAC, TPS, and if any of the tab/tad solenoids are on your upper intake, unplug those.
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      #3
      hardest part is making sure not to break any of the plastic vacuum lines. If you do, its not the end of the world.
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        #4
        I have a feeling those may be lines that are my current problem as I've already replaced the soup can, check valve and plugged the TBL and still having ATC issues.
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          #5
          ATC sucks, convert it to manual. Your gas mileage indicates that you don't have an issue. In fact if you do, I'd leave it alone. You may have a vacuum leak between the can and the HVAC controls. That won't affect the drivability of the car.

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            #6
            [QUOTE=86VickyLX;633852]ATC sucks, convert it to manual. Your gas mileage indicates that you don't have an issue. In fact if you do, I'd leave it alone. You may have a vacuum leak between the can and the HVAC controls. That won't affect the drivability of

            Wht all is needed to convert to manual? Just a different control head or do I need a different heater core and everything
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              #7
              Originally posted by mercurygm88 View Post
              Originally posted by 86VickyLX View Post
              ATC sucks, convert it to manual. Your gas mileage indicates that you don't have an issue. In fact if you do, I'd leave it alone. You may have a vacuum leak between the can and the HVAC controls. That won't affect the drivability of the car.
              Wht all is needed to convert to manual? Just a different control head or do I need a different heater core and everything
              Heater core is the same. As far as converting it, I don't know what can be used from your existing set up, and what would need to be swapped.

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                #8
                Originally posted by 86VickyLX View Post
                Heater core is the same. As far as converting it, I don't know what can be used from your existing set up, and what would need to be swapped.
                I'm no expert but it would seem like converting to manual would be more involved than finding/fixing the problem.
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                  #9
                  you'd need to modify/swap the blend door and several other things IIRC.

                  You're switching from vacuum-actuated to cable-actuated.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by johnunit View Post
                    you'd need to modify/swap the blend door and several other things IIRC.

                    You're switching from vacuum-actuated to cable-actuated.
                    Yeah I'm still hoping I can fix it just seems odd.ac blows cold at idle and if u rev engine but switches to warm defrost as soon as u accelerate also if everything is off u get warm air moving through the defrost and sometimes floor vents.
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                      #11
                      It takes 5 minutes to pull the upper intake. Leave the Spacer and TB on it, take the 2 nuts on the throttle linkage off it, pop off the throttle cable and tv cable, any electrical connections and vacuum lines, take off the intake plaque, then your only 6 bolts away.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mercurygm88 View Post
                        Yeah I'm still hoping I can fix it just seems odd.ac blows cold at idle and if u rev engine but switches to warm defrost as soon as u accelerate also if everything is off u get warm air moving through the defrost and sometimes floor vents.
                        that's a vacuum leak... somewhere lol. I have that issue too.

                        The default setting (with no vacuum) is warm and defrost, so when you're in a continuous low-vacuum situation the vacuum that is holding that the various doors and such to the "ac panel" position for instance dissipates and it goes back to warm and defrost. Sometimes it's a vacuum leak in the engine bay, but more likely one of the various lines in the cabin is leaking.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tjc78 View Post
                          I'm no expert but it would seem like converting to manual would be more involved than finding/fixing the problem.
                          it is, or at least it is if you want to do it the right way. Getting at the top of the plenum box to remove the vacuum servo that never seems to fail and fitting a cable bracket in it's place without dropping the plenum would be a massive pain in the ass just because you can't really get to the screws or the linkage. There are also vacuum valves wired off the vac servo to control the recirc door that you'd have to do something about, and the auto fan switch is back there too. Mercifully none of that crap seems to fail very often.



                          Have you tried pulling vacuum on the line that goes into the car? You'd need a hand vacuum pump. There could be a leak in one of the lines that feeds from the firewall to the head unit in the dash, or somewhere else in the dash. If thats the case, pulling the upper won't help much. Wouldn't be surprised if you have other vacuum lines that could stand changing, so it may not be a bad idea to do it anyway but with the stuff you've replaced on the climate control system, I'm thinking the leak is inside the dash somewhere. Sorry I didn't get to helping you check it out, things were just too busy last weekend.
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                            #14
                            ok car goes to mechanic tomorrow this guy is an ex ford service manager from a local dealer who went out of business about 8 years ago he was service manager from 1980 till they closed he says he knows the ATC system very well so hopefully he will find the cause of my frustration.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mercurygm88 View Post
                              ok car goes to mechanic tomorrow this guy is an ex ford service manager from a local dealer who went out of business about 8 years ago he was service manager from 1980 till they closed he says he knows the ATC system very well so hopefully he will find the cause of my frustration.
                              did he ever figure it out?

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