My mechanic claims that the 351W under the hood of my car is a police engine.
Is this possible?
Is this possible?
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Some police cars were ordered with a 351. It makes 180 hp, and I'd assume the civilian model makes the same if it has dual exhaust. Its truly nothing remarkable. The fabled "cop engine" is kind of a letdown when you consider the 302 in a Mustang made some 40 hp and 15 ftlb of torque more than the police issue 351.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers -
Only 180HP? Really?Comment
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In comparison, the 1st-gen 281 (4.6) is rated at 190hp.Originally posted by Mike_O View Post'79 Continental Town Car
'90 Crown Victoria LTD
'94 Crown VictoriaComment
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yep 180 hp
1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)
please be patient, rebuilding an empire!
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It's good for about a second off the zero to sixty time. Roughly 10 seconds instead of 11 lol.
In Canada you could get them from the dealer like that, in the US it was only available on the Police models, so yes it's a "police" motor.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
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Think the 5.0 was rated at 150 HP.
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I can remember an old dude that used to come into the store I worked at that wouldn't stop telling me I needed to find a cop car with a 351 for an engine swap for my car...because they've got the cop chip. in the distributor.
He said my car would be at least twice as good on fuel and probably double the horsepower.
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- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stockComment
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ahh yes the cop chip in the distributor that gets you 50mpg and 360 hp. did the same guy also where a tin foil hat to protect his brain from aliens reading his mind? lolOriginally posted by 1990LTD View PostI can remember an old dude that used to come into the store I worked at that wouldn't stop telling me I needed to find a cop car with a 351 for an engine swap for my car...because they've got the cop chip. in the distributor.
He said my car would be at least twice as good on fuel and probably double the horsepower.Comment
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you've never seen the special black Duraspark module that was used on SWAT team vehicles? Good for 150 hp easily.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousersComment
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150 single exhaust, a whopping 160 with duals.Originally posted by miamibob View PostBuilder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons
Busy maintaining a fleet of FordsComment
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This.Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
The "cop motor" hype must all come from older times when police vehicles (supposedly) did actually get special engines. Wasn't there an FE or 385-series that had a special "police interceptor" edition?
As for my fleet package car, the previous owner (toruqelover) told me that when it was completely stock, it was far and away the slowest car he'd ever driven. When the engine and transmission were rebuilt, he gave it some very basic upgrades - Eddy Performer cam/carb/intake, BBK 1511 manifolds with 2.25" exhaust, TransGo AOD-HP shift kit, and a yet-unknown torque converter - I'm told it went immediately to embarrassing all the local ricers rather badly.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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Originally posted by 1987cp View Post
There was a police interceptor spec 428 FE. Pretty sure Dodge had some police spec 440s toosigpic
- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stockComment
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I think the converters are a BIG thing holding the 351w back. It stalls at something stupid like 1200rpm. Even a turbocoupe converter or another mild setup would net big gains. For reference, the stock 302 converter is supposedly about 1500rpm.
85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc
06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)Comment
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Considering that both Nates' P72s shifted WOT at about 3500rpm, you probably wanted a very low stall speed to get the most usable RPM range!
Interestingly, I noticed that Dirty Dog Converters has slightly different converter suggestions for a 351 car, presumably because the same converter will stall differently behind a different engine. The one still in my P72, TOTCG reported it brake-stalling to 3000rpm with the old 351, and it brake-stalls to 2000rpm behind my '96 5.0.2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!
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