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    #16
    Originally posted by Mercracer View Post
    That is not a useful FYI. If he was blowing up 427s it was his fault (or his engine builder's) and not the engine's. This thread is about stroked Windsors and not FE engine builds...
    Ah so

    Pete
    Originally posted by gadget73
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      #17
      Originally posted by Mercracer View Post
      If you want tune-ability and want to make a ton of power, why not go with the look but go Fuel Injection?
      Because it won't run all that well with tennis balls jammed in there. Besides, I thought the desirable trait was to be able to suck a golf ball through a garden hose, not a tennis ball through a velocity stack
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      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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        #18

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
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        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #19
          Why not trio of 2 barrels.
          “Cars are the only thing on earth that will beat you, break you, make you bleed, make you cry, spend all your money, spend all your time, not work and not care that you will love more, the more they abuse you.” -Anonymous

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            #20
            Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
            I thought the desirable trait was to be able to suck a golf ball through a garden hose...
            Why, do you have that desirable trait?
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            Back to the question for the OP... What about FI like I showed? You can tune it with a lap top and it will keep the tune unlike 4 Webers which is 4X the hassle without 4X the return in power..

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              #21
              No, but if you know someone who does, feel free to share my number.
              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

              Originally posted by phayzer5
              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                #22
                A single 4 bbl is much easier to tune than 4 webers. Even once tuned, I doubt the webers would outperform a single 4 bbl.

                Injection is a great way to get the look, and not sacrifice it for performance.

                But for the money, I don't think you can beat the 4 bbl. Way cheaper, and when in tune, its going to perform.

                One place where you can get a better engine for the money, is www.fordstrokers.com

                Have you considered the supporting driveline and suspension mods?
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                  No, but if you know someone who does, feel free to share my number.
                  http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=ru+paul&FORM=HDRSC2 ??

                  Pete
                  Originally posted by gadget73
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                  2003 Grand Marquis Ultimate, the "Stealth Bomber": http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...-Grand-Marquis
                  1991 S-10, 'Bulldog', 2.5l 5 speed: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...375#post698375
                  1985 Town Car, 'Faded Glory', gone but not forgotten. 84/87/91/97 MGMs too.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mercracer View Post
                    Why, do you have that desirable trait?
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                    .
                    Back to the question for the OP... What about FI like I showed? You can tune it with a lap top and it will keep the tune unlike 4 Webers which is 4X the hassle without 4X the return in power..
                    i dont like all the computer shit, too many ways they can go wrong. i like the feel a carbed car has, and love the look of the 8 stack. i actually had this discussion earlier with a buddy of mine who thought it was rediculous to swap my motor for a carbed one but hes a computer guy so it makes sense. i just like old school shit, and doing something like throwing an old school motor in a late model car is something that alot of people dont even think about
                    2010 Toyota Camry "Traveller II "
                    54,xxx miles. New daily driver
                    2001 Lincoln Town Car Signature "Leroy"
                    rear cats deleted, 2" h pipe, dual 8" cherry bomb glasspacks
                    114k miles. Sold to my coworker.
                    1998 Toyota Camry "Traveller"
                    Dead and sold.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by 90ltd View Post
                      Why not trio of 2 barrels.
                      the 2 barrel trio looks pretty sick, though i like the look of 8 stacks better
                      2010 Toyota Camry "Traveller II "
                      54,xxx miles. New daily driver
                      2001 Lincoln Town Car Signature "Leroy"
                      rear cats deleted, 2" h pipe, dual 8" cherry bomb glasspacks
                      114k miles. Sold to my coworker.
                      1998 Toyota Camry "Traveller"
                      Dead and sold.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by P72Ford View Post
                        A single 4 bbl is much easier to tune than 4 webers. Even once tuned, I doubt the webers would outperform a single 4 bbl.

                        Injection is a great way to get the look, and not sacrifice it for performance.

                        But for the money, I don't think you can beat the 4 bbl. Way cheaper, and when in tune, its going to perform.

                        One place where you can get a better engine for the money, is www.fordstrokers.com

                        Have you considered the supporting driveline and suspension mods?
                        thanks for the link! i realize the 4 bbl would be beter performance, as well as EFI but im not a fan of EFI at all and i love the look of the 4 webers.

                        as for driveline and suspension, not sure yet. before i do all this i will have a t-45 in and 3.55's, but ill have to do something about those once i put in the bigger motor, since i doubt the t-45 will be able to handle it. as far as suspension goes, i havent gone into too much thought on what im doing other than the coil spring conversion (which will be happening when i put in the 3.55's since im tired of the air suspension)
                        2010 Toyota Camry "Traveller II "
                        54,xxx miles. New daily driver
                        2001 Lincoln Town Car Signature "Leroy"
                        rear cats deleted, 2" h pipe, dual 8" cherry bomb glasspacks
                        114k miles. Sold to my coworker.
                        1998 Toyota Camry "Traveller"
                        Dead and sold.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by 01Townie View Post
                          i dont like all the computer shit, too many ways they can go wrong. i like the feel a carbed car has, and love the look of the 8 stack....d doing something like throwing an old school motor in a late model car is something that alot of people dont even think about
                          I am not certain that you are realistically considering all of the ways that 4 carbs can go wrong.. I am a fan of keeping things simple and I have done several EFI to carb conversions over the years. I have deliberately avoided multiple carb configurations because of the inherent complexity. I would rather spend the maximum time driving vs tuning my cars.

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                            #28
                            at most, I'd do a dual quad just to keep linkage BS to a minimum.

                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                            rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                            Originally posted by dmccaig
                            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                              #29
                              Indeed. Stuff like that is fine for a playtoy, but if you need to get to work every day, you don't need complex high strung fuel or engine systems to deal with. You need something that starts and goes every morning in any weather condition. EFI is fantastic for that.
                              Last edited by gadget73; 10-10-2013, 04:53 PM.
                              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                              Originally posted by phayzer5
                              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                                #30
                                Anyone remember the name of those carburetor people who set up application-specific custom four-barrels for people? Supposedly their stuff could feed a zillion horsepower and still be extremely streetable courtesy of things like sharp calibration and annular boosters.

                                (And for those who didn't notice, the link is not for a FE but for a big inch Windsor. There's a guy on SBFtech who calls himself Woody who does that sort of thing at a shop near Chicago, IIRC.)
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