electrical questions with swapping to starter with the solenoid attached

[johnunit]

So I've got an electrical-wise stock 351W/variable venturi car with the starter solenoid on the fender. I bought one of the newer starters (asked for a 91 crown vic 5.0 one) that's smaller and has the solenoid on the starter.

I've pretty much got it as far as wiring the starter itself. run the start signal wire to the small terminal on the starter, run the starter cable basically directly from the battery to the big terminal on the starter.

What should I do with the cables that are currently on the positive terminal of the fender-mount starter solenoid? It's the positive cables for pretty much everything on the car. I think there are 5 actual cables. I now have nowhere to hook them.

Suggestions/ideas I've gotten so far:

1. quick and dirty; put all those cables and the starter cable together on a bolt, crank a nut down on it, and cover it in intense amounts of electrical tape or some other insulator

2. maybe overly complicated; mount a junction box where the solenoid is now, and wire each of the existing wires into their own spot. This sounds pretty time consuming, and like a mess of wiring to get that and a decent sized starter cable going to the positive battery terminal.


Anyone have a better solution?

[marquisman]

Best thing to do would be, get a fuse box. Then, get rid of the fuse links going to solenoid and run to fuse box. Will be doing this with GMGT. I picked up two from the wreckers.

[johnunit]

Best thing to do would be, get a fuse box. Then, get rid of the fuse links going to solenoid and run to fuse box. Will be doing this with GMGT. I picked up two from the wreckers.

So I'd be running one wire from the positive battery terminal to the fuse box, and then just putting in every positive wire except the starter to stuff in the fuse box? Is there a car I should be looking for to get a fuse box from?

[kodiak]

This is what you need and its much simpler.

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/12-volt-terminal-block

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[marquisman]

Yea, the aero fuse box(like most late model ones) has a bunch of fuse slots and all go to the main positive stud. Run wire from box positive stud to batter positive post. Then, run each fuse link to individual fuse positions. I like the aero box because, it has a good amount of mega fuse spots.

[johnunit]

This is what you need and its much simpler.

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/12-volt-terminal-block

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Well, shit. It's the thing I was wondering about the existence of but couldn't describe enough to google. thanks.



I'd love to do the full re-wire thing, but at this point I'm just trying to get it on the road for the summer. The more wiring I can leave undisturbed, the better.

[kodiak]

Happy to help

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[85crownHPP]

You still need to use the fender mount solenoid with the mini starter - I hope you did not run the tiny red trigger wire directly to the starter...

All you have to do is swap the fat cable that goes from solenoid to starter over to the steady 'hot' post on the fender solenoid instead of the switched side. This gives the starter the high-amp power it needs. Then you just run a smaller 10-12ish gauge wire from the switched side to the starter, this is its signal, and how it works in its factory setup. The thin red wire going to the solenoid isn't meant to handle the load... It probably works for now, but you may be slowly melting anything from your ignition switch on!

[johnunit]

You still need to use the fender mount solenoid with the mini starter - I hope you did not run the tiny red trigger wire directly to the starter...

All you have to do is swap the fat cable that goes from solenoid to starter over to the steady 'hot' post on the fender solenoid instead of the switched side. This gives the starter the high-amp power it needs. Then you just run a smaller 10-12ish gauge wire from the switched side to the starter, this is its signal, and how it works in its factory setup. The thin red wire going to the solenoid isn't meant to handle the load... It probably works for now, but you may be slowly melting anything from your ignition switch on!

Thank you, that's something I was missing. I haven't hooked anything up yet though. So the post that did have my starter cable now goes to the smaller signal post on the starter?

[kodiak]

Read thru this
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...d.php?t=218409

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[kodiak]

And an even better one.
http://www.supermotors.net/registry/20487/79373-2

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[87gtVIC]

this one is the best: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...tarter-install

[91waggin]

Here's my spiel on it.

http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...l=1#post717176

[johnunit]

wow, thanks for all that guys.

Assuming i'll be back in there later to do a fusebox and stuff, it sounds like all I need to get it working is a 12 gauge or thicker wire from the solenoid on the fender (going where the starter cable is now) to the solenoid on the starter, then moving the starter cable to the same stud that the positive battery cable is on. Nothing else gets messed with.

[kodiak]

Here is a pic for you to help you visualize.



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