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    +1 sounds like a rod/crank bearing. Tear apart both engines and use the good parts (crank/rods) to rebuild the exploder engine and have a nice day.

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      I would do a rebuild. Hows the bearings look? Need pics of those.
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        Did it make oil pressure when it was primed? Usually the drill will bog down pretty good if its pumping. I generally stop when smoke starts to come out of the cheap-ass Harbor Freight drill I use for such tasks. It definitely sounds dry, whether thats rotating assembly or cylinder walls I don't know.
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        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          That's what I got a low-speed Milwawkee corded drill for, 8 amps of fierce oil pumping torque if you can hold her from spinning around and trying to take a chunk off your hand.
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            Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
            Did it make oil pressure when it was primed? Usually the drill will bog down pretty good if its pumping. I generally stop when smoke starts to come out of the cheap-ass Harbor Freight drill I use for such tasks. It definitely sounds dry, whether thats rotating assembly or cylinder walls I don't know.
            Yeah it was making oil pressure. The drill almost ripped out of my hands. and I could smell the electric smell. You know what smell I'm talking about.

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              Yup, sure do - the "we're gonna need a bigger drill" smell So what's the verdict for this anyways, Exploder heads onto old block, or something else? Come to think of it, what was the reason for going with the unknown-condition Exploder motor in its complete stage, as opposed to just dropping the fancy heads onto the car's factory shortblock that is known to be good? Too high mileage on the stock engine?

              Wait, I just noticed the bitch was already E7-headed with a SEFI conversion - why even fuck with it then, especially if running good??? Or were there some other issue with that engine?
              Last edited by His Royal Ghostliness; 03-18-2016, 12:07 AM.
              The ones who accomplish true greatness, are the foolish who keep pressing onward.
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                It smoked more than Matt.
                1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
                Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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                  Originally posted by Grand Marquis GT View Post
                  It smoked more than Matt.
                  The ones who accomplish true greatness, are the foolish who keep pressing onward.
                  The ones who accomplish nothing, are the wise who know when to quit.

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                    I mean, he very well could've bent a rod. It's really easy to bend rods when you hydrolock an engine. Even a slight bend will completely change the geometry of the rotating assembly and it may spin easy until one point and then not go any farther after that. So. If I were in his shoes, I'd pull the motor and start popping off rod caps whilst at the same time, taking out each piston and checking the condition of the rods. I doubt he broke a piston skirt but crazy things can happen with motors. If a rod was bent, I'd bring it to a machine shop and swap out one of the old engine's rods onto the new engine's pistons. Then while you're there, you should do the piston rings too. If it's a standard engine and not a metric one, the piston rings are like 50$.


                    Someone help him put the shit back together, so he doesn't dick it.

                    Otherwise Matt, get another exploder block.
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                      The original motor in that thing is flat tappet with an EFI conversion. I seem to recall it being pretty sludged up as well. I seem to recall having to pass once so I could breathe air that wasn't contaminated with oil burning fumes.


                      Was the '82 engine the same 50 ounce imbalance the later ones used or no? I know there was a change in 82, but I don't recall if it was 82+ were 50, or if 82 was the last year for 28. The rear main seal would tell you. One piece should be 50 oz, the two piece are 28.
                      Last edited by gadget73; 03-18-2016, 05:37 PM.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        ALL 302 engines 1981 and newer have the 50oz imbalance.
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                          UPDATE!!! Tore down the old engine and found out why my engine was making those lovely noises and possibly why the crank was hard to spin. Found out all the rod bearings and crank bearings were wiped out, scored nicely too. No Bent Rods from what i can see they all look straight. On the other hand engine #2 build is ready for assembling, thanks to Lincolnmania for providing me with his old f250 302 short block, and the Explorer Cam from MRLTD's build. spins nicely compared to the old explorer motor and was told it has less than 100,000 miles on it. Once 86VickyLX comes up it will be assembled and ready to go in. Lets hope everything goes well. Got all new gaskets for reassembling. Had the heads looked over at the machine shop, and they are fine, no bent valves, making me think the whole issue behind that motor was a sloppy lower end. Pics


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                          1982 Lincoln Continental Mark VI Bill Blass Designer Series 2-Door(Larisa)
                          -Mods: HO Roller 302, GT40P Heads, Explorer Intakes, HO ECM(D9S), Autodimming w/compass and outside temp rearview mirror, Daniel Stern Lighting Mod, Dual Exhaust, 90's GM C/K Series Retractable Hood Light, Red Digital Dash Display, 92-94 White Leather Town Car Signature Cupholder Armrests, HPP Wheels, Police PS Cooler, Police Trans Cooler. More to come!!!!
                          1998 Ford Explorer Limited 5.0 AWD(Fiona)-Mods: Lincoln Navigator THX Audio System, Ford Explorer Sport Instrument Cluster.

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                            That one with the deep scratch looks to have had a piece of dirt in it. Its obviously got wear, but beyond the scratch nothing would make me point a finger at any of it for making it not rotate. Sloppy bearings if anything tend to make engines roll easy. If there was a piece of crap jammed in that bearing shell though, that might wedge it up. Its tight bearings that make things not go.


                            I take it you never had the bottom apart on that Explorer motor?
                            Last edited by gadget73; 03-26-2016, 07:58 PM.
                            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                            Originally posted by phayzer5
                            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                              Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                              That one with the deep scratch looks to have had a piece of dirt in it. Its obviously got wear, but beyond the scratch nothing would make me point a finger at any of it for making it not rotate. Sloppy bearings if anything tend to make engines roll easy. If there was a piece of crap jammed in that bearing shell though, that might wedge it up. Its tight bearings that make things not go.


                              I take it you never had the bottom apart on that Explorer motor?
                              No never touched the bottom end at all, except for putting a new oil pump, oil pump driveshaft, oil pump screen on, and a panther oil pan.

                              1982 Lincoln Continental Mark VI Bill Blass Designer Series 2-Door(Larisa)
                              -Mods: HO Roller 302, GT40P Heads, Explorer Intakes, HO ECM(D9S), Autodimming w/compass and outside temp rearview mirror, Daniel Stern Lighting Mod, Dual Exhaust, 90's GM C/K Series Retractable Hood Light, Red Digital Dash Display, 92-94 White Leather Town Car Signature Cupholder Armrests, HPP Wheels, Police PS Cooler, Police Trans Cooler. More to come!!!!
                              1998 Ford Explorer Limited 5.0 AWD(Fiona)-Mods: Lincoln Navigator THX Audio System, Ford Explorer Sport Instrument Cluster.

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                                My bet would be the other piece of that camshaft dowel pin got wedged in there somewhere. He got it out when he took it apart. I'd be willing to bet that's what made it hang up.

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