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    Default 85.03 Crown Vic Coupe "CVGT"

    Well as I was claiming last Scottfest - 13, that I was thinking of buying a two-door. Looks like I found one I needed, due to it being white and my current whale being white.. Was a big selling point for me



    Was a clean car from New Jersey, me and Nick went and picked it up with a solid 9 hour truck ride on Friday 4-7-14



    I bought it because I recently bought a 351 Windsor two weeks prior, seeing I had an engine.. I finally had a full reason to invest in a box to put it in. (Or atleast that's how I saw it)


    History,
    Third owner, bought it from a kid who had no idea what it was and didn't even know how to check the oil. It seems to be fully loaded, other than not having vent windows (Real downer..)
    it has full red vinyl interior which is in pretty good condition. The body showed no signs of rot, anywhere. Both doors are solid, frame is solid. The only rust spot was by the drivers side ditch light.

    What I've done / plans.


    Power plant the 351 in with some minor upgrades.
    > Weiand Stealth Intake
    > Demon 650 carb
    > Cam
    > GT40 or P heads (Planned for later on)
    > New rings, gaskets ect.

    Hoping this won't nuke the AOD until I have the funds for a T5 swap.

    Yesterday I finally was able to start working on it.


    Yesterday 6/7/14
    > Took off front front tires to check brake condition and bleed sometime soon.
    > Tore out all smog related equipment pump, hoses, cut the cat lines and capped the hose coming out of the rear of the head.
    > Figured since I'll need a new belt anyways and since it'll have to come out, took the AC out, leaving the condenser in place and removed all bracketing.
    > Ordered new KYB front shocks, Nick believes I should've ordered the police shocks (due to heavier motor coming) and I also was going to do that. Though, last second I decided I'd order the KYBs since the PI ones were Monroe.

    Today 7/7/14
    > Tore out all of the Y-piping and took off both down pipes, seeing I had a BBK H pipe that is supposed to go with short tubes, that I purchased from Nick.
    > Atempted to install said H pipe, finding out it indeed won't seal fully without short tubes and has open O2 sensors holes, seeing the short tubes don't.
    > Picked up short tubes from Nick that I was planning to test fit on the 351 (Wasn't perfectly sure that they had the same exhaust ports, now know.)

    > Got discouraged that my "new" H-pipe wouldn't fit. Decided I'd pull the manifolds and put on the short tubes (I still need to pay Nick for).





    Future plans
    > Aero rear end, disk brakes with Trac-Loc and 3.55s
    > Order or find some sort of wheels.
    > Source PI swaybars and cargo coils.
    > Late model PI Vic aluminum drive shaft.
    > Late model PI Vic front air spoiler
    > Alternator upgrade
    > 88' and up front clip swap, keeping rear the same.
    > WC T5 swap
    > Aluminum flywheel
    > GT40 or GT40P heads.
    > Taillight and headlight relay upgrade
    > Maybe tuck front and rear bumper (back of mind thought)
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    It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

    That is how you're supposed to jack it.

    Up and down.

    -ryan s.

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    Tudor club best club!


    Looks clean, plus white on white always looks good.


    85 AOD's are pretty weak IIRC, but it should hold up somewhat. A T5 on the other hand.... I'd make sure you get a built one at the very least.

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    WOW! Now that's what I call a score. White with the red pinstripes is a beautiful color combination. Easily my favorite factory color scheme for the coupes, and it's my second favorite for the sedans. Interior looks minty as hell. I bet the dash pad isn't cracked either. Win. Aside from that aforementioned rust spot and small dent in passenger door, she's perfect cosmetically. Neither of those are expensive to fix either.

    Love where this car's heading. She's gonna be a rip roaring little hot rod. Looking forward to seeing her at Scottsfest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantera77 View Post
    Tudor club best club!


    Looks clean, plus white on white always looks good.


    85 AOD's are pretty weak IIRC, but it should hold up somewhat. A T5 on the other hand.... I'd make sure you get a built one at the very least.
    Yeah.. I'm not going to put a Trac-Loc in, until the AOD is out. So it'll just spin the tires and not hook and destroy the AOD.. Wise advice from Nick.

    WOW! Now that's what I call a score. White with the red pinstripes is a beautiful color combination. Easily my favorite factory color scheme for the coupes, and it's my second favorite for the sedans. Interior looks minty as hell. I bet the dash pad isn't cracked either. Win. Aside from that aforementioned rust spot and small dent in passenger door, she's perfect cosmetically. Neither of those are expensive to fix either.

    Love where this car's heading. She's gonna be a rip roaring little hot rod. Looking forward to seeing her at Scottsfest!
    I would've posted the interior shots but I deleted them and I'm not a big picture taker. The middle of the dash is destroyed where I believe there was perforated holes for heat? But that's it.
    It's got a dent on the driver's door that sometime I'll look into and a nasty 3" by 6" scrape on the other door. Otherwise It's fine.

    On a side note, I drove the car once down my street before tearing it apart. It's TBI by the way and it'll just be carb when done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVT98t View Post
    It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

    That is how you're supposed to jack it.

    Up and down.

    -ryan s.

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    Nice car! I like the plans you have for it.


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    Sweet dude! Can't wait to see some more progress pics and posts!

    Loving the tudor!

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    Nice score Logan.

    Whats on the junkyard list for you this SF?
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    Saw this car on Saturday night, and its a nice score.

    Welcome to the white tudor club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Nice score Logan.

    Whats on the junkyard list for you this SF?
    Hopefully aluminum drive shaft, late model front spoiler, Alternator, late model Towncar seats for my whale (maybe) and maybe a 88+ front clip.

    Saw this car on Saturday night, and its a nice score.

    Welcome to the white tudor club.
    Still need to see yours, in person...

    Oh and you left a nasty one wheel peel in the street...
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    The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by SVT98t View Post
    It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

    That is how you're supposed to jack it.

    Up and down.

    -ryan s.

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    Todays progress.

    Went and bought bolts for headers (Just wanted something to do the job for now, until the 351 goes in)
    started to bolt up the headers, completing the passenger side with ease (It was like these car were meant to have short tubes) then went to the drivers side, took off the manifold without any problems, put RTV on the header and started to put it in, noticing that it had a snapped stud from what looked like happened long long ago. Cut the bit of the stud off, drilled out the hole and put in a bolt then put that header in, bolted up the H-Pipe and it seems it will need a 4" piece of straight pipe between them to connect them. Had to make the passenger's side O2 sensor wire longer, soldered and shrink wrapped.

    Started the car up to a sound that I could only compare to that of a Bi-plane motor idling.

    Waiting on my shocks to come so I can put them in and then I'll bleed the brakes and see what else I can stir up to fix, or fuck up.

    Exhaust out.


    Short tubes in.


    H-Pipe installed, went from factory 2"? to 2.5 duals.


    Since I'm running on a budget, I'll probably use the wheels off the 06. Decided to jack it up and take on off to try it on, mere curiosity.
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    The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by SVT98t View Post
    It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

    That is how you're supposed to jack it.

    Up and down.

    -ryan s.

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    Stupid question time, what's a ditch light?
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    That little light in front of the wheel at the bottom of the fender. See the pic in the post above yours.

    It comes on when the corresponding turn signal is turned on. At some point in time, they changed the operation slightly, where they only turn on if the headlights are on. 89, 90 maybe. I know my 84 would turn them on when the turn signal was activated. The '90 only turns them on when the headlights are on.
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    Nice purchase.......I really like what you have planned for that car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HiFiMerc View Post
    That little light in front of the wheel at the bottom of the fender. See the pic in the post above yours.

    It comes on when the corresponding turn signal is turned on. At some point in time, they changed the operation slightly, where they only turn on if the headlights are on. 89, 90 maybe. I know my 84 would turn them on when the turn signal was activated. The '90 only turns them on when the headlights are on.
    I was thinking of re-wiring mine to come on with headlights High - Low beams. I love the excessive light my marauder corners give on my whale.
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    The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by SVT98t View Post
    It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

    That is how you're supposed to jack it.

    Up and down.

    -ryan s.

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    passengers side header was a breeze because you cheated. lol You had no smog and ac systems in your way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    passengers side header was a breeze because you cheated. lol You had no smog and ac systems in your way.
    Yeah! I kinda thought the same. Hopefully if all things go right, It'll be ready for SF. 351 and all.

    Though it's nothing special, just another box CV with a motor that other models came with, just slightly upgraded.

    But I kind of want to bring the whale, since we're doing numidia, curious to see what the JMOD would run.
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    The only 6 speed box on a late model frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by SVT98t View Post
    It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

    That is how you're supposed to jack it.

    Up and down.

    -ryan s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Todays progress........

    Cut the bit of the stud off, drilled out the hole and put in a bolt then put that header in, bolted up the H-Pipe and it seems it will need a 4" piece of straight pipe between them to connect them........
    4 inch pipe to connect to the mids before the mufflers?

    Oh and bring the tudor. I think we will have 4 of them there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    4 inch pipe to connect to the mids before the mufflers?

    Oh and bring the tudor. I think we will have 4 of them there!
    It's a BBK H-Pipe from a fox and there's a point in between of where the H-Pipe can bolt together, instead of one piece.
    http://www.newyorkmustangs.com/forum...pipe-hpipe.jpg

    There's a two inch gap in between them, when installed. I may just have to force them together but I just left it as its.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVT98t View Post
    It has air ride. I've disabled it since I've been jacking it up and down.

    That is how you're supposed to jack it.

    Up and down.

    -ryan s.

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    Ahh I understand now. Your H is not connecting.
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    yeah... the H pipe the shop put on my car has an added section of pipe in the H to make up that gap. For yours, you might be able to make up the gap if you loosen the nuts on the header flanges to allow some movement and then work them together and then tighten up the flanges again.

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