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    Let it dry a couple of weeks first before you do anything. Touch up paint will look like touch up paint and stick out the same BUT be the correct color.
    ~David~

    My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
    My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

    Originally posted by ootdega
    My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

    Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
    But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

    Originally posted by gadget73
    my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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      Those bubbles are actually fish eyes. Some silicone or grease must have fallen on the surface before you began spraying. Those are a painter's worse nightmare. Anything can cause them, from tire shine to hair spray, whatever has silicone on it. So if your neighbor Jimbo is going nuts next door while you're painting, all it takes is you being downwind... Those things are nasty because as you see, they repel the paint, so you can actually see down to primer in those spots. I would sand & feather them out & shoot the area again. Seal the area off as best as possible, use clean rags every time and naptha or IPA. If you can pick some tack rags to run over the surface (lightly, you do not want to deposit the adhesive on your surface) to pick up any fibers left by the cleaner rags.
      1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
      1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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        Thanks Derek.
        I will definitely take that into account. The paint difference is noticeable from fresh from old(of course) . Makes me wonder why I didn't paint the whole thing, but given that this was my first body work/paint job it probably was better that I didn't. I was amazed at the prep time involved with stripping, priming, and sanding. Thinking about a stall.

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        1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

        1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

        1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

        1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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          Try to keep things OE, but missing one hubcap(some are selling for $150?better be NOS). Nothing special...flat black, lugnuts, bleach white.

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          1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

          1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

          1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

          1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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            I dig the black wheel look. Might add some pinstripes. It’s pretty easy with a wheel. Just get a brush and hold steady as the wheel turns (after jacking up).

            As far as painting goes, the prep does suck but pays off in the end. I did my 88 without a garage. Totally not recommended but sometimes you have no choice. I fixed each rust/dent area one at a time and sprayed with regular spray can primer, yes the cheap stuff lol. Again... really not recommended but I was in college and was basically broke! I forget what the can said, but it did provide protection from rust for a few days. The rest of the car was scuffed then primed with cheap but got it from a paint store lacquer primer. Blocked it out and sprayed a 2k urethane topcoat on it. In a driveway... no garage or paint booth. Took a week or so to get it ready then two 12 hour days before the morning of topcoat painting. It’s still on the car ten years later and looks pretty good. You can do it without a garage. It won’t be perfect but it should be uniform color and shiny.

            Your job looks fine for spray bomb. As far as the fish eyes, you can touch them up as mentioned above, with a small brush. Thin your paint a bit and do several thin coats.

            I have been using Southern Polyurethanes products on my 68 and have been very pleased. They ship for free. They don’t really do basecoat colors unless you want a very basic color. But all primers and clears are top notch and budget friendly from my experience. Their waterborne wax and grease remover is just what you need to clean before painting next time. But as Derek warned, nothing will kill the silicone. Even most deoderants have it, so watch your arm pits and don’t use old t-shirts for paint prep.
            1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
            1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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              Oh yes - if you use anything 2k (with a separate hardener), be sure to wear a respirator. Full face is good if you can swing it. And a tyvek suit. Google isocyanates.

              Link to Southern Polyurethanes: https://www.southernpolyurethanes.com
              1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
              1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

              GMN Box Panther History
              Box Panther Horsepower and Torque Ratings
              Box Panther Production Numbers

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                I dig the black wheel look too, especially since your car is dark blue. Yeah wear a respirator. I never could get comfy with full face masks but like the half mask 3M makes, the one that's blue. More comfy for extended wear time. Oh yeah, there is a ton of time in prep work. Fun is the event of painting which goes by so fast. Then there's more work to getting that to look right.

                And yeah, lotion & deodorant are nasty. I use Right Guard and haven't had a problem, their white solid stuff. Before that, I used something else, forget what it was and I just got a job as a powder/liquid paint applicator and I'll never forget the nightmare I had with craters & fisheyes. Long story short was the spray booth was sucking deodorant crusticles from my arm pits and depositing them on the panels... It wasn't every panel though, so eventually I found the problem & ziptied my sleeves to my arms Which leads me to say paint isn't smart. That is to say should you ever see fish eyes or craters everywhere, the paint is most likely contaminated or your air supply is. If it's only here and there, either the substrate is contaminated or your cleaning rags were or something of that nature.
                1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
                1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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                  Thanks for that link Tiggy, the prices are great. More good info about the small stuff and how it can change ur paint. Body/ painting work is definitely a subset of skills I lack, but is less intimidating then before. Gonna try and wax the shit out of my old paint and see if that will transition the color better.



                  1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

                  1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

                  1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

                  1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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                    I would clay everything first then use a mildly aggressive compound on your old paint, polish, then give it a coat of wax. The clay will remove impurities STUCK to the paint. Impurities in the paint cause the light to not reflect properly. The less impurities in the paint the better light can reflect off of it and shine better. Also removing surface contaminants before compounding helps prevent trash from being swirled around under your buffing pad. Finish up with a nice polish and a wax and the paint will be in tip top shape and may match your new paint better.
                    ~David~

                    My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                    My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                    Originally posted by ootdega
                    My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                    Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                    But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                      After a basic wash, claying. Definitely picking stuff up.
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                      1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

                      1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

                      1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

                      1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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                        Single stage paint right thar. She's original.
                        1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
                        1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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                          Originally posted by Grand1 View Post
                          After a basic wash, claying. Definitely picking stuff up.
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                          You feel the difference in smoothness before and after no?
                          ~David~

                          My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                          Originally posted by ootdega
                          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                            The vast majority of my car, yes. Took me long enough! There is a little roughness from new to old paint still, but most of the over spray is gone. Hit it with some rubbing compound (again these barges take forever!). Thinking the Polish and wax will make it less noticeable.
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                            Last edited by Grand1; 08-24-2018, 04:18 PM.



                            1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

                            1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

                            1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

                            1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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                              God bless you if you are doing any compounding by hand on these large panels. I have rotary and dual orbit polishers and still dislike doing it. lol
                              ~David~

                              My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                              My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                              Originally posted by ootdega
                              My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                              Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                              But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                                I did my Townie by hand last year. Sucked. Sucked. Sucked. Wonder why I haven't done it this year yet...
                                1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
                                1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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