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    Crazy minnesota Idiot with a 86 crown vic.

    Hello! I have recently dived into the world of panthers head first with no floaties with my recent purchase of a blue 1986 crown victoria with 5.0 efi and bare basic options. However, with me going against the norm of everybody my age buying a honda civic or buick I have ran into issues.

    The fuel pump failed, and I am replacing the fuel pressure regulator. Luckily for a MN car the only rust is in two spots in the trunk everything else is a breeze to unbolt. Except I can not get those fucking fuel lines to disconnect. I have the 5.99 autozone tool, and I managed to get my fuel filter lines off with it no issues, but the lines leading to the tank on the frame won't give in that easily or fall victim to a bumbling idiot's dumb luck!

    So what do you do with that metal tool? and how am I being a dumbass?

    Also while I'm asking stupid questions whats the best way to approach replacing the fuel pressure regulator? I see it appears to behind the intake, whats the best way to get at that?

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    Can't help you with the other things you asked but if its got Tits or tires it will give you problems, Hondas and Buicks are no exception. Welcome aboard!
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    The tool you probably have is a quick disconnect tool. There is usually nothing quick about it! On your fuel tank you should have two clip style connectors like your fuel filter - no quick connect fitting or tool needed. Look for a plastic pin that pulls out. Once that's out, the lines just pull apart.

    Fuel pressure regulators don't fail that often. If your car was running ok before the fuel pump issue, you should be ok with keeping the one that's on there. When they do fail, the engine floods with gas and gas usually squirts out the top where the vacuum line attaches. It will barely run if at all. Had a Ranger do that once and raw fuel was coming out the tailpipe. Not sure how that didn't hydrolock.
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    yeah, hairpin clips at the fuel tank. Should be no tool involved other than a little screwdriver or a pick maybe.

    If you didn't get replacements, you'll want new seals for the fill pipe to tank and for the plate that the fuel pump hangs from. Neither take well to being disturbed.

    Change the fuel filter while you're in there. Not liable to have anything to do with anything, its just something people don't change that often. The FPR rarely quits. The only one I ever had go bad was an aftermarket fancy adjustable POS. I replaced it with a boring stock one and its been fine for years. The original one that I pulled off (and lost) to put on the fancy one was also fine.

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    Hmm well I popped out those clips and the lines weren't budging a bit. I am terrified of breaking the solid fuel lines.. Hmm would spraying wd40 or something similar help loosen up the crap in.there..Theres sandy dirt caked everywhere along the frame rail.

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    The passengers side popped off with ease..Drivers side being a stubborn ass bitch still... The damn line will spin but not come off.

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    wd40 won't hurt anything, give it a shot.

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    Got the tank down, pump in, original pump was missing its screen.It was a bosch pump. Put in my nos hanger assembly with mustang pump into it. Now we're struggling with those fucking straps.

    This whole job has been a Pain in the ass.

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    Got the tank down?? I don't know about 86 models but I've done several 90/91 CV's and the fuel pump can be replaced without dropping the tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcninetyone View Post
    Got the tank down?? I don't know about 86 models but I've done several 90/91 CV's and the fuel pump can be replaced without dropping the tank.
    90/91 (and all the way up to 2012) have the whole assembly in the front, 89 and down, and 90/91 wagons have the sending unit on the front and the pump on the back side. Only way to do it is drop the tank.
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    Yeah pain in the arse. Any advice on straighting out those straps? Its a really tight squeeze. One of the studs came right out on the passenger side.

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    Jack and 2x4 on edge to press the strap to the tank and up against the car. Should help get the slack you need to get the bolts back in up top.

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    Dang, mental note to just keep buying '90+ panthers. Guess I just dumb-lucked this one!

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    I usually buy longer bolts and clamp them down harder on the straps. Original straps are a pain in teh butt on everything. Did you throw in an upgraded pump while you were in there....you know....just in case.

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    I went with a mustang pump by CNT racing.. people have put those through ungodly abuse. If it can survive active pressure tests at 100 psi I do believe it will last me a long time. Also it was made for the newer corn gas which I know is what roached my old pump. Couldn't find the strainer for the old pump. Either it melted or is that what is is clogged up the old fuel filter. The old pump was covered with residue and there was signs of wear on it. But honestly it wasn't rusted or looked that bad.

    I may go about doing the longer bolt method since one of the studs came out like a bolt and that strap is bent from the tank landing on it. Also I found the only areas where the rust are on that car are those two trunk mounting points with the two holes behind the rear wheels. Well MN has some pretty sandy dirt.. well that crap got caught in there. Rusted it out.. Highly isolated.. Literally nothing. I see 2008 cars rolling into my work that are in far worse shape then my 30 year old boat. I do like the looks of the early panthers.. Honestly dealing with a PIA tank isn't so bad.. I just wish i wasn't working god damn late shifts this week. I had to take a day off to just get progress done on it. Been over 6 hours wrestling that tank and enough sand and dirt that fell on my head to make a freaking beach.

    I really enjoy driving my crown vic. It's a very solid car that is comfy. We had an old lady come into work with a black 1989 a month before I bought mine, hers fully loaded husband maintained it.. I got dibs on driving that beast in and out of the shop. That planted the seed. Mine wasn't an LX, but I honestly prefer the basic cars. Every car with power windows I've owned has gone to shit in a week flat. The radio is starting to go on my poor vic. Not sure if I want to put in an aftermarket one (I got a double din touch screen unit with GPS, that I know if i was careful I could massage into the dash) or see if anybody here has a stock one knocking about. I would prefer to keep the car original... since putting in a new radio requires quite a bit of rewiring from what I have read.

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    Tanks are not fun. Wait until you get to fight the fuel filler neck seal.

    If your car doesn't have premium sound, it's a pretty easy job to do an aftermarket radio. They make a pigtail that plugs into your existing wiring. That way it can be easily undone later if you'd like.

    I still run my stock radio. Plays music. That's all I need. Actually pulled from my friends '89 which he pulled out in his first two days of ownership.
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    Mine just says stereo on it so hopefully I can find somebody with a stock one.. Jabbing it when ever it gets wonky does the trick for now. Yeah the filler neck was a bitch. "Just pulls out" they said... yeah freaking right.

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    Gas tank, heater core (and for some weird reason driveshaft) are the top three difficult things to remove in my 88 Town Car. Other than that, it's pretty good to work on. Oh, and welcome to GMN.

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    You guys gave me a better welcome then CVN so thats why I'm coming back here.(Also the tech section on boxes is more active here.) I bought a reproduction of the 1986 shop manual from ford. That contains some nice information. Only one more day before I can work on my vic.

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    Welcome to the forum.

    For the FPR you will need to remove the upper intake. Kinda impossible to do with it there in the way. Three allen headed bolts holing it into place iirc.
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