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    Ah, that sounds good. I asked because the most detailed write-ups I've seen about the swap were part of 5-speed swaps.
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    And regarding the master cylinder, would I need the ABS or non-ABS version for the swap?
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    Here's just some info that came up when I was inquiring about the newer type booster. Pretty much got the "breakdown" on the Aero/Early Whale boosters:
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    ‘92-‘94 (‘90-‘94 TC) Non-ABS + ‘95-‘00 Non-Police Boosters are interchangeable as they are they same. Both use standard threads on the studs and have a 222.25mm diaphragm diameter.
    ‘92-94 (‘91-‘94 TC) ABS boosters are unique to themselves. They use metric threads on the studs and have a 222.25mm diaphragm.
    ‘95-‘00 Police boosters are unique to themselves. They use standard threads and have a 224.03mm diaphragm.
    Essentially the TL;DR is just ignore ABS booster units for the '92-'94 cars. You can use the others without any issues. I've got one specified for a '92 CV without ABS on my '87. I kept the original master cylinder on when I installed it. I just had to gently move everything forwards a bit. Everything fit fine.

    As far as updating the master cylinder, I figure a non-ABS unit should fit the bill, however I'm not sure if the threads going into the later ones are the same as the early ones, but I'm sure someone will chime in on that. Also, I thought these have some frame mounted proportioning block compared to the later cars. I don't know how well that would mesh with a rear disc setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
    And regarding the master cylinder, would I need the ABS or non-ABS version for the swap?
    I kept my stock 1983 master cylinder. Works fine still!
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    What's the difference between the 92-94 and 98-02 MCs?
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    apparently 01/02 are different from 92-00 non-ABS/non-police as they are not listed on the applications. Probably different 01+ because PI engine change over. Probably changed several things that year.

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    Well that’s never happened before. I found a part number for a NOS lock set a while back. I was hoping to use the original for a while longer, but I guess not. I ordered the set today. Unfortunately, it only contains the ignition and door locks. I’ll have to find a set for the glovebox and trunk separately. I ordered the ignition set from a Ford dealer that gave me a number for the trunk set. Time to search the depths of the internet.
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    or just go to a locksmith... or take the pins from the old one and put them in the new one like I did on my 93.

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    Only problem is the other half of the key is still in the cylinder.
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    You can disassemble the cylinder once you remove it. It pretty much just clips together where the pins slide in. The key can actually stay in there to remove the pins. should be able to fall out once the pins are out though.

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