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    Well, I've continued to get a #3 cylinder misfire and my mileage is still crap after the alignment. So looked into it the other night. I did a resistance test on all 8 injectors. The limits are 11-18 ohms. All of them were 15.0-15.2 ohms. No problems. I was really hoping for #3 to be shit. So I replaced it with a spare I had. I did a resistance check on that one too before I installed it and it was all good @ 15.0 ohms.
    I installed it and then went back to the garage to work on my school project.
    The next morning, while I was driving to work, it started misfiring worse. Like, really really bad. Then the CEL starts flashing. I don't have time to deal with it, so I continue driving to work. Then to class. Then to my buddys house after class. I finally looked at it. You know, it really helps when the connector is plugged in. apparently, it came loose while driving. I must have hit one of those gnarly potholes and jarred it loose.
    Now, it runs like a boss.
    Geez.


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    yeah... I have several of those connectors zip-tied on because they suck.

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    The actual Bosch connectors that were used on the EV-1 injectors are a little more robust. There is a wire bail that holds it all together. The Ford version with the wimpy little side clips that break off kinda suck. Of course the Bosch ones suck if you yank on them and bust the track that the wire sits in.

    Ford plastic connectors in general aren't that great. Seems like all of my cars have at least a couple of connectors with busted latches, some held together with zip ties so shit works. One of the pins in the air suspension relay on the Continental doesn't stay so the air suspension randomly fucks off if I don't have the tie on there holding the wiring up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    The actual Bosch connectors that were used on the EV-1 injectors are a little more robust. There is a wire bail that holds it all together. The Ford version with the wimpy little side clips that break off kinda suck. Of course the Bosch ones suck if you yank on them and bust the track that the wire sits in.

    Ford plastic connectors in general aren't that great. Seems like all of my cars have at least a couple of connectors with busted latches, some held together with zip ties so shit works. One of the pins in the air suspension relay on the Continental doesn't stay so the air suspension randomly fucks off if I don't have the tie on there holding the wiring up.
    Almost all of them on mine were broken; a mechanic Permatex'd the connectors together and a few of them had orange goo on the terminals; surprised they fired. I replaced them all with the Bosch plugs.

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    They almost always break if you just pull on them. They often break if you carefully lift the tabs. Its 20+ year old plastic, it was never meant to live this long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    ...Its 20+ year old plastic, it was never meant to live this long.
    Humans weren't either, better living through chemistry, science and community where possible. (All items sold separately. Use at your own risk. Not available in all states. Check with your mother before purchase.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    They almost always break if you just pull on them. They often break if you carefully lift the tabs. Its 20+ year old plastic, it was never meant to live this long.
    A wise man once said "Be generous with the duct tape, you know; spare the duct tape, spoil the job."

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    Now it's time to fight the next batch of codes:
    P0420 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)
    P0455 - EVAP System Leak (No Purge Flow or Large Leak) Conditions

    Let the fun begin.
    I also broke 170k.


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    I ran it across the scales and it turns out that the title lied about the weight.
    Title said: 3617
    Actually: 3660
    That's with about 2 gallons of gas in it, and me not in it.
    That's 3660 with the block swap and the other stuff I've removed/replaced.
    I guess my quest for 3500# just became more difficult....


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    Quote Originally Posted by SVT98t View Post
    Now it's time to fight the next batch of codes:
    P0420 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)
    P0455 - EVAP System Leak (No Purge Flow or Large Leak) Conditions

    Let the fun begin.
    I also broke 170k.


    -ryan s.
    2 spark plug non foulers threaded into the downstream o2 sensor on the passenger side exhaust. And fill up your tank so the ecm never runs the EVAP monitor.
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    Meh.

    Did the initial oil change on it. I should have done it sooner. But it doesn't look too bad. A little bit of shiny, but everything should be about done working itself in.
    I also changed the fuel filter. I thought I had done it last year when I put it on the road, but as it turns out, I did not. After further inspection, I think it may be, uh......original. I had a difficult time trying to get the lines off. This should not be a 45 minute job. Anyways, one of the plastic cups and O-rings came off stuck on the filter. It's supposed to be in the end of the fuel line. So I had some fun trying to get it off the filter, and then back into the line on the car.
    But, it is done, and more importantly, not leaking.
    I'm gonna try and install my Tank horns on it this week. That would make me feel better about it. I'll do a before and after video, because the stock horn is absolutely pathetic.


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    Tank horns???

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    The original horns from TOJ I and TOJ II. Together. They're loud and obnoxious.
    I just keep adding them.


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    beep beep motherf....

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    Threw some Wagner ThermoQuiet ceramic brake pads on the front since they were almost worn out.
    Car stops like a boss now. No ABS makes it even more fun. I can't get the tires to squeal; it just stops fast. I like.
    I also took the jack out of the trunk, along with the spare tire cover. Ended up removing 9.2 lbs of weight from the car, theoretically, putting it at 3651 lbs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SVT98t View Post
    Threw some Wagner ThermoQuiet ceramic brake pads on the front since they were almost worn out.
    Car stops like a boss now. No ABS makes it even more fun. I can't get the tires to squeal; it just stops fast. I like.
    I also took the jack out of the trunk, along with the spare tire cover. Ended up removing 9.2 lbs of weight from the car, theoretically, putting it at 3651 lbs.


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    Thermoquiets ftw. I put them on my 98. No fuss, just stops. I've never actually gotten the abs to kick in.
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    So you guys have noticed a difference between those and regular old semi metallic? Is it just the thermoquiets or you think its ceramic in general?
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    Yes.
    I originally had a pair in TOJ2, and I thought it was going to flip over when I stabbed the brakes. I'm sure I probably got the front end to hit the ground braking during one ScottFest.
    That, and I got 75,000 miles out of them, and they still had 1/4 or so pad left.
    Ceramics are worth it.


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    I like Centric Extended Wear pads. They offer less grabiness, a relatively flat response curve when cold or hot and extended wear.
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    Hmm. I think I put the Wagner ones on the truck. I prefer ceramic due to the low dust but good to know they last a while and bite better. Brakes in the truck were shot when I did them so anything was better than they were.
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