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    Cool. SD has so few inputs that they're all kind of critical. Temperature signal really screws with how the fuel works, it also determines when to turn on the oxygen sensors.

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    Received my registration renewal notice today. I've got until next month to swing by the tag office and pay the $20 to get my new sticker. It doesn't feel like I've had this wagon for a year nor did I drive 5,000 miles with it.

    I took it out and drove it today. Started off no problems despite having sat for a few weeks. Then I found out the right rear tire has a leak. All the others were at 35 PSI, that one was at 20 PSI. I need to pull it off and inspect it, since it just recently started losing air, so I suspect I picked something up in the tread. I think both of my cars have at least one tire with a patch.

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    Sheeit, i've put almost 4000 miles on a work van i moved into about a month ago, which is more than i've put on my "new" car in the last year and a half. Is $20 all you have to pay for the year or is there more to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklehead0202 View Post
    Sheeit, i've put almost 4000 miles on a work van i moved into about a month ago, which is more than i've put on my "new" car in the last year and a half. Is $20 all you have to pay for the year or is there more to it?
    The explanation for this, as for many other things, is simply that California sucks. Yearly registration for my Mustang costs me $20 in Oklahoma with an additional $20 for the vanity plate it has. Texas gets a little more for the Mercury at about $78 every year. Inspection is $7 at a local place I go to.
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    Omg i'm going to cry and/or puke. I'm very aware of the fact that california sucks, but it seems like every day it gets exponentially worse. They seem to take sucking as a challenge here as well, constantly trying to outdo themselves. Can't wait to move.

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    At least you're not a screwed as people in West Virginia. They have a European style VAT for car and towing trailer registration, you pay taxes on the full book value of the vehicle every year at renewal time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklehead0202 View Post
    Sheeit, i've put almost 4000 miles on a work van i moved into about a month ago, which is more than i've put on my "new" car in the last year and a half. Is $20 all you have to pay for the year or is there more to it?
    For the '87, since I don't have any vanity or specialty plates, it's just $20, or $21 if I renew by mail.

    Georgia changed up how the vehicles were taxed in 2013. There is an annual Ad Valorem tax you pay if you registered a car before the 2013 changeover period. After that point, you now pay a one time tax up front when you register your vehicle.

    This is our breakdown:
    How Annual Ad Valorem Taxes Are Calculated (Pre-2013)

    Ad valorem taxes are calculated using the following formula:

    (Fair Market Value x 0.4) x (Millage Rate/1,000) = Ad Valorem Tax

    The first part of the formula, (Fair Market Value x 0.4), describes how the assessed value of your vehicle is calculated. The Georgia Department of Revenue assesses all vehicle values for tax purposes each year. Assessments are by law based upon 40% of the fair market value for your vehicle.

    A mill is 1/10 of 1 cent or $1 per $1,000 of assessed value. When we publish the millage rate, we are describing the number of mills. When we calculate taxes, we divide the number of mills by 1,000 to convert mills into whole dollars.

    The millage rate is approved by each taxing authority. Therefore the individual millage rate for each taxing authority will be different.

    The county Board of Commissioners sets the millage rate for county taxes, the county Board of Education sets the millage rate for county school taxes and the city authorities determine the rate for city taxes. These rates are generally set and approved in late July.

    Because of this, the amount of taxes you owe will change depending on where you live. Therefore, it is very important you keep your residential address up to date so your registration renewal bills are correct.


    Title Ad Valorem Tax (2013 and after)
    TAVT is a one-time, per owner tax that is collected at the time the vehicle is titled. This tax applies to all title ownership changes, purchases or vehicles being brought into the state of Georgia by residents or new residents. Currently, TAVT is 7%* of the retail value, assessed value established by the Georgia Department of Revenue, or "clean retail" value shown by the NADA. Vehicles subject to TAVT are exempt from sales tax.


    Essentially, when I registered the wagon, I paid all the taxes on it up front and now only have to pay for the registration renewal. The state only values it around $700, so taxes are incredibly cheap. I think when I went to register it, I paid more in title transfer than for the tax and sticker. I recall paying maybe about $90 overall to get it registered in GA, pay the tax, titled in my name, and plated.

    The only downside to this style tax is obviously if you purchased a newer car, you're going to pay more in taxes up front, but after that's paid, again, you only pay $20 for registration renewal unless you have a specialty tag where the yearly renewal fee may be slightly higher.
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    NJ you pay sales tax on the purchase price of the vehicle when you title it, annual renewal cost varies by GVWR class. The Towncar and the S10 are $78 per year, the Mark VII is $46. The Continental is going with historic plates and those are like 40 bucks every 3 years or something. If its a cash purchase of a used vehicle the money paid is whatever I say it is. A lot of people in this state own "$100 cars".



    But fuck that paying annual tax on the book value of the vehicle every year shit. I'd expect more sanity from West Virginia.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    NJ you pay sales tax on the purchase price of the vehicle when you title it, annual renewal cost varies by GVWR class. The Towncar and the S10 are $78 per year, the Mark VII is $46. The Continental is going with historic plates and those are like 40 bucks every 3 years or something. If its a cash purchase of a used vehicle the money paid is whatever I say it is. A lot of people in this state own "$100 cars".



    But fuck that paying annual tax on the book value of the vehicle every year shit. I'd expect more sanity from West Virginia.
    In Michigan it goes of the base MSRP for the model, it goes down by some percentage every year for the 1st 3 years, then remains static for the rest of the vehicles life. That's all good and dandy, except the base MSRP for a M83 body code Town Car (Cartier) in 1997 was $43k, so the registration for my rot box is $199 a year, and the car is barely worth that much in its current condition. For comparison the base MSRP for a M75 (Grand Marquis LS) in 1998 was $23k so its a slightly more reasonable $120 a year.
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    I really should stop bitching about the NJ DMV fees I guess. On the other hand we get bent over on property taxes so it all works out. I think thats the real game, each state gets the same kind of money from you but it varies exactly how they extract it. Like they say, death and taxes.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Quote Originally Posted by phayzer5 View Post
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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    Oh how this thing likes to be difficult.

    It started running stupid at idle with a dead miss. Cylinder balance test kept bringing up cylinder 1 as a culprit. Checked wires, all good. Pulled the plug only to find it drenched in gas and covered in white deposits. Swapped the plug from cylinder 2 just to see if anything changed, stayed on cylinder 1. You could unplug the injector on 1 and it kept running the same. I'm assuming it was sticking or leaking, because despite feeling it pulse, it must have been dumping gas.

    I'll send that one back under warranty to get it fixed. In the interim, I tossed in a BWD injector. Seems to be running well enough, but something tells me it prefers the single pintle type injector over the 4 hole one for some reason. I would have used one of those Chinesium ones I pulled out, but finally figured out why they're worthless, and it boiled down to the fact that the injector tip doesn't come down far enough to clear the pintle cap, so I can only assume it was shooting fuel into it's own pintle cap. Replacement o-ring and pintle kits don't fit them correctly either.


    Got some more news for things in the power department. The guy who is giving me the heads and such said since he's not going to worry about pulling stuff apart and is essentially delivering an entire HO top end to me, cam included. I would essentially be a single PCM away to having all of the components available. I'm guessing the AOD may need a better governor in it for that, however. Maybe this summer I might just go crazy and pull everything apart. An Explorer swap sounds appealing, but this is cheap, since I'm really only paying for gaskets and fluids.

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    I have a 1988 mercury grand marquis that thing it awesome super smooth riding. nice car btw


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    Zach - the 4 pintle injectors have nothing to do with the issue. I have them on my 89, Chris on his 91. Bummer about the tingtangtong injectors. Wow.
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    1990 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - 302 V8- 102K miles.
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