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    Default Ho upper egr and tb

    First off thanks you 87gtvic for the parts 👊🏼
    I did the upper and egr and tb. I know some of y'all have already done it but here's my car just finished it today . It is all stock other than the 3G upgrade also thanks to sly for the help👊🏼 Here y'all go
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    Ho upper ����

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    Sanded and painted

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    Removed upper intake

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    Comparing stock tb and ho tb
    And stock egr and ho bored egr is on top
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    Auto parts store only had one pack of 3inch long bolts for tb and egr so had to use a 4inch on one of them. I'll change it out later. 😂
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    This is what it looks like on a table

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    During install

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    Last pic

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    After everything I did fell a difference since it is my daily driver on throttle response I did do a little burn out or 2. Next thing I'm thinking of doing is eaither exhaust or gear idk about 3.55 since it's mostly a highway driver. Probably go with 327 hopefully limited slip

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    I've got everything I need to do that swap aside from a donor EGR spacer and one of those black plastic grommets for the HO throttle shaft.
    So it doesn't hesitate or anything like that?
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    Nice!


    The stock stuff is just so tiny.
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    Yeah didn't expect it to be that small

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    yeah the stock stuff is pretty feeble.

    The factory studs should work fine with the HO throttle body, assuming they aren't so seized in there that they will not let go. Happens, steel marries to aluminum quite effectively after a couple decades. Antiseize compound is your friend.

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    Yeah they would of worked but during removal I messed them up. Had to use a axe and wedge to remove ho egr from ho upper to install the bored egr.

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    Thats great. Ive never had a reason to use an axe to fix my car yet. Goals.

    The egr spacer and throttle body sure do like to 'weld' themselves to the upper intake.
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    The HO manifold I saved required me to use a cut-off wheel, heat just wasn't doing it haha. I wasted so much time on that HO upper, didn't even notice that someone busted off one of the studs that holds the plaque on. They tried to tap it out and it's all off center. Not sure if that can be saved or if I have to start over again.
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    Just run 3 screws, its not that critical. If it really bothers you, cut a screw off and glue the head into the hole in the plate so it looks like its all there. Explorers only ran 2 screws.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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    Probably what I was gonna do. The manifold is really pretty now, and clean. Fuck the inside of that was nasty...
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    yeah the egr gets them pretty crapped up inside. One thing that I do think is better about newer designs is the EGR has a legitimate flow sensor instead of the position sensor. The ECM controls the position of the EGR valve based on measured flow, rather than what its been programmed to think the flow is. I suspect they programmed it to open more than it needs to, expecting that it will gradually clog itself down over time which allows it to still work once that happens. I suppose if one knew what they were doing, it would be easy enough to alter the program to fine tune it, though to be perfectly honest I don't know what you'd need to make sure its right. Probably an emissions dyno setup at least, but possibly other stuff as well.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Quote Originally Posted by phayzer5 View Post
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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