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    I ordered a NOS sensor listed for the Thunderbird. The Town Car one that I saw was used and roughly the same price. Dimensionally they appear similar, so hopefully that all works out. I don’t figure they’d made the sensor dramatically different electrically between car lines.

    Like I said before, I tried fiddling with the original sensor, but it didn’t care what level of sensitivity it was at or if light was shining on it or not, it just kept the lights on.

    I’ll look into testing the feed wire. Something tells me that your thought about a crispy or open circuit is likely correct.

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    Probably the 4-pin connector off the back of the switch. IIRC, that's the one that feeds the autolamp stuff.

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    I suspect the only real difference between the various sensors is the adjustment to allow for different amounts of light that gets to the sensor through the hole in the dash. I notice the one in the Conti seems to come on a little later than I'd prefer. Eventually I'll pull the dash pad off and tweak it. It has the adjustment sticking out of the side, though the manual does imply its pretty touchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    I suspect the only real difference between the various sensors is the adjustment to allow for different amounts of light that gets to the sensor through the hole in the dash. I notice the one in the Conti seems to come on a little later than I'd prefer. Eventually I'll pull the dash pad off and tweak it. It has the adjustment sticking out of the side, though the manual does imply its pretty touchy.
    Mine has "1/16 CCW turn is 15 minutes later". Hopefully tuning it won't take too much effort.

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    Might justify a 5 or 10 turn pot if its too much of a PITA.

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    Got the unit labeled for a Thunderchicken in today. Looked identical to the unit labeled for Lincoln. Plugged it in, now I actually have a functional sensor. Off in daytime, lights on in a dim garage. It seems to be within about the same amount of the delay the '97 has before it'll kick it's lights on when pulled into the garage, so I'll say this sensor is within reasonable tolerance I shouldn't need to play with it.

    Now I just need to put the dashpad back on and clean up the relay install. Thanks for everyone's help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodachrome Wolf View Post
    Mine has "1/16 CCW turn is 15 minutes later". Hopefully tuning it won't take too much effort.
    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    I suspect the only real difference between the various sensors is the adjustment to allow for different amounts of light that gets to the sensor through the hole in the dash. I notice the one in the Conti seems to come on a little later than I'd prefer. Eventually I'll pull the dash pad off and tweak it. It has the adjustment sticking out of the side, though the manual does imply its pretty touchy.
    They are very touchy, and the 1/16 of a turn = 15 minutes thing isn't accurate, least it wasn't for my car. I've got them right though, took a few days of trial and error. I ended up settling for something close to stock, because while where I was originally happy with where I set it during regular driving, I was not happy that even in broad daylight the headlights would come on when stopping for gas under your typical gas station awning.
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    mine is odd, in the garage in broad daylight its on. Actually driving in the evening it will be a whole lot darker than the inside of my garage before the lights finally activate. This was an NOS sensor but it is 30 years old. Maybe I should have re-capped it before installing. The original was dinked, not sure what it's ailment is but it seems to be something in the chip. The inputs to it do what they should, the photocell is fine, it just never gives any output to turn the lights on.

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    Ever forget to check behind yourself to make sure the normal stuff works? I didn't. Need to go find my dunce cap, I don't listen well sometimes.

    Parking light setting is headlights. Headlight setting is headlights. Clicking on high beams with no lights on? All lights on. So 100% you cannot hook up park/headlight feeds at the relay and get fully correct operations. Come full circuit to weak coil click for that circuit but no engagement.

    I pull the headlight connector out, and I've got a very melty connector at the back which has the feeds for the respective circuits. Parking light circuit is smoked on the autolamp connection at the back of the switch. The main large connector on the bottom is cracking apart. I'm replacing both of those connectors and I'll toss in a new switch for good measure. I'm also going to put the original connector back on for the DPDT relay and see if it all comes to life again. While I could retain the dual relay combo, I figure I'll just eliminate the bulk since I've really only bypassed the-not issue component.

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    Called it.

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