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    I can't figure this one out. I keep hearing this knocking coming from the passenger side of the motor. It's coming from the front of the motor. My serpentine belt was rotted so I just replaced that and it's making the noise. It doesn't sound like Tick, its real weird. On the suggestion of one of my friends who has a mechanic background, I tried swapping out the spark plug on the cylinder I suspected with a spark plug that a new was working and this did not solve the problem at all. The sound is constant from idle on word. It is most audible at idle and starts to quiet down as engine revs. It doesn't quiet down 100%. Ideas? I've put in a link to a video of it. It sounds like someone knocking on wood lol.

    https://youtu.be/Y736jdc4pcQ
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    #2
    I would unplug each injector one at a time and see if the noise changes.

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      #3
      Yup, shut injectors down one at a time, look for the one that makes the least amount of difference in engine sound. Same thing with the coil packs if she's a COP setup (don't recall if '96 and '97 already got that or not), if no COP you're back to the good ole pull the plug wire off the coil method. Also, you may wanna have the ECM do a cylinder balance test, it will likely catch it if something isn't quite right (like a tiny cracked in the ceramics of a brand new spark plug, whale panther ECM caught that misfire).

      You can also try taking the new belt off and running the engine with the accessories powered down - worn bearings can make some really odd noises depending on how they're loaded, if you have no noise with belt removed then start looking at your accessories.
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        #4
        Take the belt off before you get too far along. Kinda sounds like a bad AC clutch bearing or a bad tensioner.
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          #5
          The ac pulley is singing like it needs another shim. Sounds decent when the clutch engages. I would also just check by feel on the plugs. If you feel a wire/cop pulsing, then that plug is probably blowing through.

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            #6
            When I changed the belt, I did spin the A.C. compressor a few times to see if the sound was coming from it and it spun smoothly with no sound.
            Thanks for the suggestions mangs.

            How do I do that Cylinder Balance Test?
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              #7
              On EEC-IV cars the ECM will kinda go into it on its own if you floor the throttle after it's done spitting the regular codes outs. On the EEC-V that you got, I honestly don't recall how I did it last time, it's been like forever since then and these days I got the attention span of a squirrel more or less, lol
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                #8
                Mr Land Yacht! Suuuuuup, homie!?!
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                  #9
                  Hey mang. I'm sorry, it's been a while since I've been on the forum. I don't remember you offhand Chuck Norris.

                  I unplugged fuel injectors with the engine running and that's not the problem.
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                    #10
                    I am not sure what you meat so let me ask. As you increase engine rpm does the knocking increase in synch with engine speed?
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                      #11
                      If you haven't test run the engine with the belt removed yet, try that.
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                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #12
                        So what has been checked so far? Now i'm curious and want to find out wtf is going on with this one. Loose plug? A/C compressor? Timing stuff on the way out in a big way? Rod knock? Also recall a post on CVN about one guy's experience with loose torque converter bolts so nothing is off the table here really. Come on! I gotsta know.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jaywish View Post
                          I am not sure what you meat so let me ask. As you increase engine rpm does the knocking increase in synch with engine speed?
                          Yes.
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                            #14
                            Maybe it's the timing chain guides slappin' around??? NFC man..
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                              #15
                              Can do a cylinder balance test with a decent scan tool for OBD-2 as one of the "Enhanced DTC" features of the tool.

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