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    This came out of Ward's Automotive Yearbook. According to those books, '83 Ford production was added at the Mercury plant in St. Louis, and then when Oakville switched over to the Tempo the following year, its Panther production was moved to St. Thomas (presumably because the end of the Fairmont opened up a production line). It did say that February '85 is when St. Thomas became the sole source for fullsize Fords and Mercurys when St. Louis started retooling.
    1985 LTD Crown Victoria
    1977 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme
    1992 F-150 XLT 4x4, 351W

    Past: 1995 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor

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    I wonder now when my '85 LTD was built. It was not built in St. Thomas.
    1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
    1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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    Just to add fuel to the fire my old 85 was built in September of 84 and was built in St. Louis.




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    I was moving cars yesterday and in doing so, found that the driveway stain I've historically attributed to the Lincoln's previous power steering pump had become much, much larger. Like, the size of a Panther hood. The car sitting in that spot now was the wagon, and the new fluid was red.

    So, put the wagon up, got under, found that the O-ring for the retrofit trans drain plug had squeezed out of position and that's where the mass quantity of fluid was coming from. Easy.

    Drained it into a bottle, dug around the garage for a copper washer (think brake system, but smaller), and solved that problem. Same fluid that came out went right back in, since it's new anyway.

    I will note that the fluid has darkened a fair bit, but that could easily just be new fluid washing old out of all the nooks and crannies. Regardless, it shifts absolutely fantastic, so...whatever happens, happens.

    Also, the rear main leaks...a lot.




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    self undercoating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sly View Post
    self undercoating.
    self preservation.

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    Self oiling.

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    '91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, 'Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.

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    Self changing.

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    I had what I thought was a rear main leak once. Turned out the flex plate bolts need thread sealer and I hadn't put any on. I redid the seal anyway, but when I pulled the first flex plate bolt it was like I pulled a drain plug for a second.

    If you need to get at the rear main and want to go the route of removing the trans, I've got a cheap trans jack if you have no other option. I also have the special tool to install the seal and repair sleeve if you choose to install a sleeve. The special tool was cheap enough for me, basically a PVC cap with a special ridge for the sleeve.
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    Last one of those drain plugs I installed, I brazed in. I didn't care for the plastic sealing washers so its now permanently a part of the pan, sealed forever with brass rod. The inner drain plug has a copper washer. My local hardware store has a good assortment of copper seal washers in metric and standard.

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    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

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    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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    Oil change day. 74,263km. 446km on this oil, which is a mix of leftover mixed conventional 10W30 and 5W30 plus about a litre of Dex/Merc (re: the potentially false tale that ATF cleans up engines). It came out black as night, so there's that. This is the second oil change in owning this car; the first change was also a very short interval and happened after the timing set and intake gaskets right before it hit the road.

    New oil is a Shell-manufactured synthetic blend diesel/HD 10W30 in a store brand pail. It's probably Rotella T5 but there's no way to really know that. New filter is a FL1A. This combo will run for a standard 4800km OCI. I put copper washers on the drain plugs as the plastic ones were leaking, as they always do.

    The Citgo C1A filters ($1 filters I bought because I knew I'd be doing a couple short OCIs) seem to have a very functional anti-drainback valve. Maybe more functional that our beloved FL1A. The car had been left on ramps after the trans drain plug stuff above, and not run since, and yet when I pulled the filter it was completely full of oil and there was a significant suction/draining sound when I threaded the filter off (air entering). If I had a good way to evaluate how well they actually filter I'd be tempted to buy a bunch more if they're still on RockAuto.



    Didn't do chassis lube since that was all done 446km ago.

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    wonder who makes the cheapie. There are only so many companies manufacturing stuff. Champ Labs makes a ton them with all manner of brand names.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

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    Glad to see I'm not the only one who writes down the date/mileage/etc. on the top of the oil filter box...
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    1992 F-150 XLT 4x4, 351W

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stocker View Post
    Glad to see I'm not the only one who writes down the date/mileage/etc. on the top of the oil filter box...
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    I bought a big roll of oil change stickers for short money. I'll be able to sticker my own cars until I die without buying more.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Quote Originally Posted by phayzer5 View Post
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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    ATF does work at desludging. Why transmissions are always so clean and if further testing needs to be done, schmear it all over something greasy at a yard and see what happens.
    1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
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    Also can work as penetrating oil in a pinch.

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    '91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, 'Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.

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    As with the 83, this was at the 2019 Metro Detroit meet today. Following the meet, some photos were taken.

    Following are also in the 83 thread, with a couple of just this car alone which I didn't include there.

    This car did shred its belt today after parting from the meet. We peeled off the shredded part and it made it home using the rubber band scrap that was left. Of course, I hadn't put spare belts in either car. The failed belt was on it when I got it and did look like it was kind of old.

    Also, the charging system light is now on pretty much solid, at all times the key is on. Still a stock 1G externally regulated system. It's almost certainly a short to ground in the light bulb circuit because there is no actual reason I can find for the light to be on, however, the fact the alternator works at all does seem to suggest it can't be shorted as the alternator won't excite without that circuit...it's a mystery.
















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    Nice photos. Cool areas.
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    does the light go out if you unplug the regulator? If it doesn't, its a short to ground. If not its something in the reg causing it to turn on. If the resistor across the back of the bulb is missing that might also cause it to come on.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Quote Originally Posted by phayzer5 View Post
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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