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    Whoa, an update!

    I mentioned recently...
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    RockAuto, Amazon, some other vendors, then it dawned on me...U-Haul. Most of their hitches are Curt units just with U-Haul's logo on them; there's nothing wrong with them at all. My local corporate location had one, so no shipping, just $150 Canadian plus tax and it was mine. Install looks dead simple as all holes needed already exist in my frame. And yes, the frame is solid enough. While I was at it, I picked up a Class II (better than nothing) for the Lincoln, so it can be equipped with the same amenities...bike carrier being a primary goal there. Same thing, $150 plus tax, and they had it on-hand. Both hitches were tagged "do not reorder", which is maybe unsurprising considering both applications are now long-discontinued vehicles.
    After giving it more thought, I decided that 1-1/4" receivers have no place in my life. I returned the Class II for the Lincoln back to U-Haul, and had a local towing specialist order a class III instead. I added it to my garage of endless upcoming projects, and pulled out the previously purchased Pro Series (Cequent, Reese) Class III and put that on the Lincoln yesterday.

    I did have to grind down a little weld spatter on the frame, but nothing major. The fish wire they provide with the hitch is a lifesaver. Fitment on the car is pretty much perfect, with just enough clearance from the license plate. The instructions note that 85-89 Town Cars require additional spacers to drop the hitch away from the frame, which surely has to do with the new bumper for 85, but for the old fat bumpers, those aren't necessary.

    One the hitch was on, I installed Air Lift 60769 air springs inside the coils. Quite frustrating to get into the coils with the springs, but they went in. Undid the shocks to get more spring height for that. Like the Ranger, I'll use manual fill valves for now and see how I like it. I put the fill valves in pre-drilled holes on the hitch but may relocate them in the future.

    While under the car I figured out why the exhaust is sagging oddly...the universal hangers I used behind the mufflers broke (metal studs ripped out of the rubber straps). Back to the drawing board for that. Easy fix once I find the right product to use for it.

    I also test fitted my new bike rack. It can't fully fold up into the storage/transport position due to the hitch being recessed, but it otherwise seems like a good fit.






























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    You might already know this info, but hope this helps if you don't. If the Air Lift bags have heat shield(s) included in the box, use them. The warranty will be void if you don't. It protects the bag from the heat of the exhaust pipe. I ran a tee from each bag to the fill valve. Then mounted the valve in the center of the filler panel. You should like the bags, I used them on two cars and they lasted about 15 years.

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    Ah, yes. I will be installing those heat shields but figured I'd wait until I re-hang the exhaust. This car is seasonally parked right now, so it's not urgent.

    I wanted to avoid drilling holes in anything anywhere, so the existing holes on the hitch were perfect. They won't be convenient to access, of course. I could put them through a couple vacant bolt holes in the bumper so they point downwards. Or depending on what's behind the license plate I could run them through the unused set of bolt holes on the license plate. That'd be kind of slick.

    Depending on how my inspection of the front end goes, it might get a complete front end rebuild before it goes back on the road, but we'll see. Rear sway bar is on the to-do list as well.

    I'm hoping the bags when empty (minimum pressure of 5psi) won't affect the ride quality. I'll really be kind of upset if they do.
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    I was planning to get a set of those and plumb into the auto-level rear suspension. My car sits at the right height unloaded, so I'm hoping it won't bother the ride any since it shouldn't have much air to speak of. Let me know how it turns out. I may have to add a pressure switch in the mix to make sure the compressor doesn't attempt to over-fill the bags. Should be easy enough, just wire it between the relay and the control module, if its beyond whatever the max pressure for the bags are, the pump won't go.

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    If the conversation sounds like Deja Vu, it's because it is: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...Spring-Options

    A point that came out of that was: do not plumb the bags and the shocks together, because the shocks need more "P" per each of their fewer "SI" (as in PSI) than the bags do.

    Of course I suppose that means, as long as the Air Lift bags provided sufficient lift, it wouldn't matter if the shocks were doing their job much or not. But then there's not much point to having them.

    Operating range is 5 to 50PSI. Air Lift says not to let them drop below 5, I guess because it will allow them to distort in the spring and possibly become damaged.

    Re-capping somewhat, this car did get CC817 cargo coils, which I found sagged unacceptably with load, so I put in 8805 constant rate Lincoln springs and found it also sagged unacceptably with load. That's how I arrived at the air spring option.
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    Please note... max PSI is 35 as noted in the installation instructions: https://www.jegs.com/InstallationIns.../022-60769.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by sly View Post
    Please note... max PSI is 35 as noted in the installation instructions: https://www.jegs.com/InstallationIns.../022-60769.pdf
    Where'd I get 50 from...weird. Yes, 35.
    And based on how much lift I see (unloaded) at even 10PSI, I doubt 35 is needed for my uses.

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    Yes the wire fishers are handy for the hitch install. I junkyard picked my set up. Luckily I had a long extendable magnet on hard to rescuer the important bits. Same for the install.

    Anyway you can rig up a safe/sturdy uprightish position on your bike carrier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
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    Anyway you can rig up a safe/sturdy uprightish position on your bike carrier?
    Receiver extension?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Yes the wire fishers are handy for the hitch install. I junkyard picked my set up. Luckily I had a long extendable magnet on hard to rescuer the important bits. Same for the install.

    Anyway you can rig up a safe/sturdy uprightish position on your bike carrier?
    Junkyard was an option I did consider, but the savings in effort fighting rusty junk and risk working under a junkyard car were worth the added purchase price, to me anyway.

    There is a not-by-design midpoint in raising the rack up where it will sit, which is better than fully extended but definitely not vertical. It's a decent compromise. Other than that...

    Quote Originally Posted by VicCrownVic View Post
    Receiver extension?
    I don't think it would be wise to move the load any further aft of the axle, but it's something I'll look into.

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    I don't have the shocks on the car, I was planning to use the air bags instead. And yes I talked about doing this a long time ago. Shows how quickly I move on things.

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    You wanna know what it will handle? Here's my 93 with the load helpers (the AirLift 1000 bags) fully inflated, back seat full of crap, box full of crap. Level. Estimate probably 350# between backseat, trunk, and box. Had even more in the car when I went to Scottfest in 2015. Probably close to 400# just in the box and trunk. The only thing you'd have to worry about with an extension really is departure angle.
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