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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Wagons only.

    It gives the front of the car another "tie" point between the fenders and the radiator core support.

    The core support is only held in with two body mount bolts and maybe 6 bolts per side to the corresponding fenders.

    Does it actually do anything though? Dont know but I have them on just because it does not hurt running it.

    Honestly you can easily make this yourself with some round tubing and a vice.
    So they only come on wagons guess i got to go get the

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    Wagons seem to have had a few of those "But why?" things going on. Never could figure out why Ford made their tire pressure 26 PSI front and 35 PSI rear. That said, I run 35 in all corners. 26 is incredibly mushy.

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    I'll be gluing the cracks in the mounting holes today or tomorrow and will probably get it cleaned up and installed before the weekend. Pictures will be taken.
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    What ended up happening?
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    The K-code cars have extra braces welded to the radiator supports too. Never really thought they were needed. WagonMan
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    What ended up happening?
    Funny story, actually.

    I haven't installed it yet.

    Been busy after work with school work these days. I have a couple weeks off starting about a week from now and I'll get it installed!
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    I installed it tonight and will take pictures tomorrow (too dark right now). It fits like a glove. 10/10, would recommend. I need to swing by a local yard tomorrow to grab an additional screw, though. There is a pre-drilled hole that lines up perfectly with the forward mounting eye, but I need the extra screw to use it.
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    The suspense. I will want one if it definitely does not interfere with the wagon fender braces. The ill fitting reservoir was ALWAYS bothering me.
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    I seemed to recall I had the extra screw I needed from when I pulled the '90 TC bottle I had been using, so I got to searching my incredibly disorganized fastener box.



    I found the screw I needed and finished the install. Sorry about the poor quality pictures. It was already getting dark and I had to use flash.

    You'll notice the reservoir has a nifty notch molded into it that is designed to hold the supply hose. It uses the same low-level sensor as the aero cars. There are two holes that line up perfectly to mount it. It's obvious that it was made for the car.











    Final verdict: $65 well-spent.
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    Nice, fits perfect.

    Some of the newer bottles have the notch for the washer fluid line and some don't, kind of like some have low fluid level sensors and some don't. Also, for the ones eith the fluid level sensor the electrical connector changed 2 or 3 times. I don't remember what years had what, but I know a ran across each configuration when looking for a new bottle earlier this year. Unfortunately no California MAF box CV/MGM in any of the Detroit yards (hey, it could happen ).
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    Here are some Pick-n-Pull yards over there that have some '90-'91 cars in inventory. Couldn't find any GMs.

    Another alternative (how I found mine) is to search car-part.com for parts specific to box panthers and then sort the results according to year. Then give the yard a call with the stock number to see if the reservoir is still available. Most places don't list it as an available part. I got mine from a place called Steelhead Recyclers. Sometimes you'll get lucky and find a car with pictures and you can verify that it was at least installed when it arrived at the yard.
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    The fender brace uses the mount JUST in front of the rear most mount for this reservoir.

    Looks like it would not fit without altering/clearancing the plastic mount on the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    The fender brace uses the mount JUST in front of the rear most mount for this reservoir.

    Looks like it would not fit without altering/clearancing the plastic mount on the tank.
    The rear eye on this one mounts using the same hole as the '90 TC bottle I was using before. Did you mount your bottle differently to make the brace work?
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    After some googling, I came across an engine bay picture from a 1990 CP, and it looks like the wagons didn't get mass air for whatever reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
    The rear eye on this one mounts using the same hole as the '90 TC bottle I was using before. Did you mount your bottle differently to make the brace work?

    I cannot say I mounted it in a way to make the brace work as I mounted it flush against the curvature of the inner fender arch and never thought anything of it.

    As you can see mine mounts WAY lower on the fender.




    Also some gross pics from back in the day here: http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...l=1#post462936

    Last edited by 87gtVIC; 12-11-2018 at 03:02 PM.
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    Is your's shorter? What car did you pull it from?

    I think a possible option if you wanted to run this bottle would be to fabricate your own fender brace that would work around the bottle. It is just a piece of tubing with pressed ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
    Is your's shorter? What car did you pull it from?

    I think a possible option if you wanted to run this bottle would be to fabricate your own fender brace that would work around the bottle. It is just a piece of tubing with pressed ends.
    I think it is in fact shorter. I think mine was pulled from a 93 vic... http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...l=1#post463327

    I am still planing on getting one and then seeing how to proceed with the fender brace.
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    Once all this holiday shit is over with and i finish all my sidework I can go in search of some cali-boxes. If there's anything specific i need to know shout it out. I'll take a look underhood when i leave this morning to see what mine looks like. Haven't seen a lot of '90-'91s around in the local yards but there IS an all-ford auto dismantler not too far from here i can check out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklehead0202 View Post
    Once all this holiday shit is over with and i finish all my sidework I can go in search of some cali-boxes. If there's anything specific i need to know shout it out. I'll take a look underhood when i leave this morning to see what mine looks like. Haven't seen a lot of '90-'91s around in the local yards but there IS an all-ford auto dismantler not too far from here i can check out.
    From what I've gathered, '90-'91 sedan CVs and GMs with California emissions got mass air, a fan shroud and overflow bottle similar to the '90 TC, and their own specific windshield washer fluid reservoir. Wagons got the standard box panther air box setup without mass air. The links I posted above are from northern Cali and the Fresno area, I think. Not sure if there is anything down where you're at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    I think it is in fact shorter. I think mine was pulled from a 93 vic... http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthre...l=1#post463327

    I am still planing on getting one and then seeing how to proceed with the fender brace.

    So I happened upon a 1990 grand marquis with mass air today in San Bernardino. The puter was stolen and so was its maf sensor....what was left behind was the washer fluid reservoir. It was damaged and the part that is missing was nowhere to be found...part number F0AU-17618-AB. It would indeed interfere with the fender braces. If it was undamaged I would have snagged it though for the hell of it...when the hell do you see these things...hens teeth i say.
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