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    Hello guys,
    Im 1987 Grand Marquis owner from the Czech Republic. This car is in CZ for almost 30 years and had really tough life. Im the owner for past 12 years. It always has been second or third car, but it also served as some kind of party van or party mobile. The engine slowly transformed into oil sludge ball, the vinyl landau top is disapearing in small parts, rust is digging. So now I needed do decide what to do with the good old GM. Sell it? For how much? No one wants it... Scrap it? Holly sh*t! No! Never!
    So there is last possibility, the correct one - restore it It will be project for this fall/winter. Complete engine rebuild, some welding, new landau etc. Im pretty sure, it will cost much more than is the GMīs actual value, but understand, this car is a trusty (and rusty) friend.
    And lets start with first question: Is there any simple way how to dig out some more HP from the engine? Because, if the engine will be complettely disassembled, rebuild and I will buy lots of new parts, why dont buy some HP too...
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    Welcome! I wondered about the .cz when I approved the account...

    Looking forward to seeing future progress on this car and I'm sure members here (myself included) will be able to help hook you up with any parts that you have trouble finding.

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    Nice car! I was very fortunate enough to be able to visit the Czech Republic about four years ago. Beautiful country. Great beer! Y'all invented pilsner!
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    Welcome to the forum.
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    Welcome!

    Was this a US car originally?

    Assuming it’s a 302 SEFI car, the horsepower potential depends on how much you want to spend since most of what is sold for the Fox 5.0 Mustangs fits the engine physically. Many members are happy with stock Mustang spec HO conversions (computer, heads, cam, upper intake, throttle body, injectors, and exhaust). Other members go a bit farther and use better than HO heads, intake, cam, whatever else they want which does require a mass air conversion and possibly a tune. Maybe just toss a couple turbos on it...
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    Yes, this car was imported from Florida by someone back in 1991. There is maybe around 40 or 50 panther boxes in the whole country. Most of them are TC

    I consider all possibilities of what to with the engine. The only modification I did by now was installing custom made duals with H pipe and pair of dynomaxes. Along with cats deleting and the smog pump deleting. But honestly, I dont feel any difference in performance. It only has better sound.

    We will start with the car in the end of September, so I still have a month for reading and thinking.
    I will not do the engine by myself, I dont have space, time and the most important - I dont have the skills.
    This guy will work on it https://www.facebook.com/vlastimil.lehecka his profile is open, so you can check the photos
    I just need to know the direction, let it stock or modify. And if modify, then how much modify.
    For now Im sure we will give away the cast iron exhaust manifolds. Im looking for a pair of Lincoln logs as they are direct replacement. But it seems they are not in production as a spare part. I checked rockauto and amazon, but no luck.

    Sorry, for mistakes in my English. Im using it for communication at work, but Im not a native speaker
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    Giraffe: Yep.This is what we are famous for Cheers!
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    Your English is very good. It was one of the things popping into my head before you yourself mentioned anything about it.


    Good idea going with the lincoln logs. This will enable you to still utilize your custom exhaust.
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    Thank you for the compliment

    I hope I will get the logs here in this forum. Someone already offered them to me, so he may be willing to send them to Europe.

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    Welcome!

    The car looks way too good to even consider scrapping it. Good luck with the engine rebuild and upgrades. As you are aware, these cars aren't worth much but if the engine is rebuilt right you will be able to enjoy the car for many more years. To me it would be worth it and I'm glad you think so too.
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    Welcome! I like the pic of your GM with the red GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 79lincolnlover View Post
    Welcome! I like the pic of your GM with the red GM.
    Itīs my friendīs 87. Fully restored. The restoration was paid by insurance company because he was hit by a female driver in Skoda Octavia and all costs were covered by her insurance.
    The insurance company didnīt have GM in their tables so they paid full price of all parts, paint etc. This is how we live here

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    Welcome here, having an american car in Central Europe should be amazing, When I was in France, I had a 77 Chevy Caprice and it was very funny to drive it in the small roads, people are not used to seeing these cars and are impressed, I suppose in CZ too
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    If you decide to modify the engine, i have a BBK SSI intake manifold that i would be happy to donate if somebody can figure out shipping to CZ. By the by, you folks make great firearms. I have a vz58 and i love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanner02480 View Post
    Welcome here, having an american car in Central Europe should be amazing, When I was in France, I had a 77 Chevy Caprice and it was very funny to drive it in the small roads, people are not used to seeing these cars and are impressed, I suppose in CZ too
    Yes, itīs the same here. People are taking photos, asking what is it, what is the fuel consumption, assuming that such a large car needs to go 20l/100km

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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklehead0202 View Post
    If you decide to modify the engine, i have a BBK SSI intake manifold that i would be happy to donate if somebody can figure out shipping to CZ. By the by, you folks make great firearms. I have a vz58 and i love it!
    Thank you very much for the offer. The intake is used with the EFI or is for the carb conversion? What else is necessary if you want to use it?

    Btw. a pair of Lincoln logs is in your inventory too? Im looking for them, but still no luck

    vz58 is goog piece of iron, itīs usually nicknamed "kosa" here, means "the scythe". Check the Skorpion mini submachine gun, Im pretty sure you will love it

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    The BBK intake is for EFI and the upper is reversible so it would be a good fit for a panther. I definitely would recommend using it on a modified HO engine though, as it would likely only rob power from a LoPo due to large plenum volume.

    Regrettably i do not have any lincoln logs. I chose to use tubular headers and a modified mustang h-pipe, which is another option if you are able to source the parts.

    I am familiar with the vz61 but have never had hands on one. They are a bit difficult to acquire, especially in california, and 7.65/32acp ammo is a bit expensive. I may get a vz52/57 if i can find one for the right price, and older CZ-made mausers may find their way into my collection at some point as well.

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    Tha car looks great with the shiny black wheels & raised white letter tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitymerc View Post
    Tha car looks great with the shiny black wheels & raised white letter tires.
    Yes, I think so, thatīs why I put these wheels on it. They are dry-ice blasted and powder coated. The car looks now more rough or, letīs say more redneckish I have also set of original turbine wheels, but they are now just sitting in the garage

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    @ knucklehead0202
    I will see how far we will go with the mods. I would like to stay with my almost new custom duals, means I canīt use any other manifold than stock cast iron or the Lincoln logs.

    Iīm able to source almost every part I need, Iīm using summit, rockauto, amazon. They ship to CZ without any problem, just the shipping costs are higher. I had 7 different american cars and still have two so I know the ways. Some parts I can buy directly in CZ because we have couple of companies importing cars and parts from US. But their prices are hell

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