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    Default Add Aux Port to '95-'97 JBL Radios?

    I was cruising eBay to see if I could find a cheap JBL head unit for the '97 since the tape deck is messed up, and I had been using it once in a while. However, I noticed a lot of Ford radios listed as "refurbished" with aux ports added to them. However, none of them appeared to be the type that work with a rear control unit, just the Midline models seen in base Crown Victoria and GS trim Marquis.

    Searching around online, I could really find anything about them either, just save for a few folks on other forums who just tapped a ground, and a left/right feed to the appropriate pins on their circuit boards. I even went and watched Gadget's video for the Box radios to try and compare my findings.

    I need to open up the one from the '97 and look in it, but is it really as simple as hooking up three wires or am I missing something here? I'd like to have the aux port added since the Pioneer unit in the '87 has one, and I've been using it quite a bit.

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    What connectors are on the back? If its the sort that is capable of working with a CD changer, aux is very easy and needs no internal work. If not, it still can be done but probably needs some futzing about on the inside. The plugs on the back should tell the tale. The changer-compatible ones have a 6 (or maybe its 8) pin connector that has a jumper plug in it when not used with a changer. Basically you pull that plug out and it loops through a 3.5mm socket with a switch in it to make it all go.

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    This is the back of the CD changer model:


    FWIW, I do have the CD changer as well. It plugs into the RCU.
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    hm, they must have changed it in 95 then. The one I'm familiar with has a small plug for the CD changer and another plug for the audio output. There was no RCU on those, the radio was the radio, the amp was all that sat in the trunk.

    Possibly with the wiring diagrams an easy way of adding aux might be turned up. I'm honestly not familiar with the RCU setups.

    If there is a CD changer input at the RCU, you can probably interrupt it there to feed the aux in, but of course then you're running a cable from the trunk to the inside of the car.

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    I’ll grab my ETVM and look at the stuff for the JBL system.

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    Interesting thing I found online: http://www.discountcarstereo.com/AUX-FRDW.html

    That looks like it plugs in-line from the back of the radio into the harness that runs back to the RCU.

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    says it connects to the changer, not the radio. Sounds like its about what I had in mind, it breaks the signal between the changer and the rest of the system and injects the aux signal.

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    Strange. That connector doesnít look quite like the stuff that goes into the RCU. RCU connectors are more D-shapes versus the square type.

    If that harness wasnít $50 Iíd probably go ahead and pick it up, but Iíll wait on that one if the creative way doesnít work.

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    forgot I have these, derp

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    I would bet that if you broke the signal at the "cd changer in" and fed in an aux, it would work. You'd need one of those 3.5 mm jacks with the internal switches to do it but thats easy.

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    So based on that, a five pin 3.5mm audio jack is what I’d be looking for, since that would be a switch type?

    I am a clueless about how I’d setup the connector at the jack though. I know I’d have my five wires, L/R in+out and ground, I’m just not sure where they’d go on the jack.

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    yep

    typical switched jack looks like this electrically



    The "in" wires to the RCU plug would connect left side to pin 3, right to pin 2

    The wires from the CD changer connects left to 5, right to 4

    ground goes to 1

    plugging in a jack breaks the path from CD changer to RCU, and your iWhatever signal gets sent instead

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    Thanks so much for your help.

    I’ll order up a jack tonight and try to get into this project next week.

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    I would suggest pulling those wires out of the connector and poking something in there to connect the mp3 player first just to verify it does work as expected. Its definitely not impossible the system doesn't work quite how I expect it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    I would suggest pulling those wires out of the connector and poking something in there to connect the mp3 player first just to verify it does work as expected. Its definitely not impossible the system doesn't work quite how I expect it does.
    I'll see about testing that then when I've got some time. Got a few bigger projects to knock out before I get to this one, but this should be the more interesting of the bunch going forwards.

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    Currently working on this project. Everything is wired up and working semi-correctly. I guess the audio jacks I ordered despite being labeled as a switch type definitely don’t switch, so there’s the audio from the CD changer and audio from the external device.

    Great if you’ve got enough ADHD to listen to two songs at once, but I’m not that good. I’m going to be lazy and just burn an entire disc of blank tracks so I can use my phone. I’m sure if I found a better jack, it would work. Anyway, I’ll try to get some pictures of my “handiwork” up once I get the cable run to the front of the car.

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    Not a 5 wire jack? Not seen one that had 5 terminals that wasn't a switcher sort. Even the "good" ones are sort of chintzy really, or at least I haven't found really nice switcher ones. I'm using some Switchcraft product and they're generally a good company. Either way its pretty easy to ohm check them to confirm if its a switcher or not. Its also possible the output signal is high enough that its bleeding through even a switching jack. Usually the highs are more prone to bleed than the lows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    Not a 5 wire jack? Not seen one that had 5 terminals that wasn't a switcher sort. Even the "good" ones are sort of chintzy really, or at least I haven't found really nice switcher ones. I'm using some Switchcraft product and they're generally a good company. Either way its pretty easy to ohm check them to confirm if its a switcher or not. Its also possible the output signal is high enough that its bleeding through even a switching jack. Usually the highs are more prone to bleed than the lows.
    It is a five wire, and uses a schematic similar to what you posted for input/output. I’ll chalk it up to being fine chinesium. Everything sounds good otherwise, so I’m not too worried about it since a workaround is simple enough in this case. If I was more anal, I’d consider replacing the jack.

    I am going to quickly go run to the hardware store and get some replacement drill bits (my small ones are toast). I’m going to mount the jack on the passenger side beside the 12v outlet. For me, that’ll be the cleanest setup since there won’t be jack just sticking out of the dash trim somewhere.

    Once I get that done I’ll get final pictures. It’s nothing really special though.

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    I'll preface this by saying I don't solder often and I'm using a rather old, and cheap iron that more than likely should be in the trash. Excuse the ugly.

    3.5 jack with pins. Blue/Black is for IN (RCU side), Red/Yellow is for OUT (CD Side). Bare strands for shield ground.


    Everything wrapped up.


    Hacking together my already hacked CD changer harness. I never had a complete harness, so this was some weird/cheap adapter end that was originally for auxiliary but would delete the CD changer that I adapted into a harness . Coming full circle essentially.


    Lots of ugly back here, adding a subwoofer and CD changer to a car that was never setup for it. The unhooked plug was bypass used when this had an aftermarket head unit.


    All my extra wire coiled up. I ordered 20 feet of shielded wire when I should have just ordered 10 feet. I still paid less than $10 for it, so it'll live in a coil behind the tire.


    Floor board panel. I have a panel with the optional 12V socket, but I'm thinking about converting it to use USB down there for convenience, then I'll just add the jack beside it. I plan to use hotglue on the back to keep it properly in place.

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    Edit: I’m stupid.

    It doesn’t switch because I wired inputs to one side and outputs to other side. It’s also the reason it doesn’t play loud out the left channel.
    Last edited by Kodachrome Wolf; 02-28-2019 at 10:31 PM. Reason: Had long post that it was the jack, no it’s called I can’t read a simple diagram.

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    at'll do it. I was also going to suggest possible signal bleed if the ins and outs aren't shielded from one another.

    The usb charge ports are very useful. Only thing I ever use a lighter socket for is to plug in a charger anyway. Not sure what you're using for a source but some things are available with a cable for both audio and charge at the same time. I've got one for the old ipod I use in the car.

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