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    Default 1986 town car what to look for?

    Title explains the lot. My 2011 grand marquis got owned I got chump change coming in after for it... soo Iím looking at another panther.

    https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/a...790188113.html


    What to expect? What to look for? What to do?

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    That '86 looks really, really rough. The top is likely to peel off and be hiding rust. The body moldings are dealer add ons or whatever and peeling off. Paint's shot, tires are scary, if it's only got 65k since 1986 then it's sat for a long time and probably every gasket and rubber bushing on the car is rotten. The interior is "fair" which means trashed. Hard, hard pass.
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    Welcome to the joys of MN cars. Everything here sucks.

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    Mostly all the same stuff any of these cars have troubles with. Much of it will be age-related, but they are prone to rot in basically all of the same places the Vics are. Some of those areas are hidden by the stainless panels though, so you might be in for surprise rust that isn't easy to see from a casual look. The only Lincoln-specific stuff is basically interior cosmetic items. The door panels crack, the glovebox sags, if it has digital dash sometimes that breaks, the leather seats are pretty much always shot, the dashboards crack.

    Agreed on looking like it sat a long time. I'm personally not a fan of the cloth tops either. One cool bonus with those, if the adhesive gets weak it can actually rip the whole fiberglass shell off the roof of the car at highway speed, so thats fun.
    Maybe if it runs really well and you could use a winter beater it might be worth a look.

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    Does look like a good winter ride. Too much money IMO.

    I bet the fuel system is nasty. If it stinks like a five-day dead deer that ate moth balls when you take the gas cap off, known you’ll likely be putting a fuel tank and pump on it, possibly more. Plus tires, plus tune up, and who knows what else... then you get into $2500 before you know it.
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    I think it might be worth a look. Just maybe a look. xD you donít see many of these cars up here. But then again. There might be a reason why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHax View Post
    I think it might be worth a look. Just maybe a look. xD you don’t see many of these cars up here. But then again. There might be a reason why.
    If you have your heart set on a box town car, import a good one from out of state, fluid film/oil spray it every year, and enjoy. There's often near-pristine looking examples that pop up with nuked transmissions for like $1k (which, you can negotiate), a $1000 transmission rebuild and brass bushing, and you're motoring in style.

    Sadly, the box townies are getting thinner and thinner on the ground, and this is going into tax time: the *worst* time to buy a car, everything gets overpriced by 1500-4k to rip people off for their tax returns.
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    How the fuck do people ask for this kinda money when shit is blatantly falling off the car and it overall looks like shit.
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    Agree with gadget and 87gtVIC here, it's an overpriced turd. Yeah yeah I understand, "that's all I can find" but that doesn't mean you should buy it. I'm a box townie connoisseur and I wouldn't own that for $500. I absolutely hate those fuckin' tops too. Like gadget said, they can fly right off on the highway and all that stitching wears out & becomes tattered, plus no opera lights. F'in stupid as Town Cars got the best opera lights boxes had to offer. My spouse had an '89 with that top which she drove for 3 years or so. She hated that top and leather seats. Top essentially turned into streamers (lol) by the time she sold it. That car is crusty too, which means IMO it'd make a horrible winter beater unless you went through all the wiring and vacuum hoses under the hood first. OH shit, then there's the fun and joys you get when you notice your gas tank sprung a leak, or a brake line popped when you tried to make a hard stop or a fuel line itself rusted a nice hole. None of the fasteners spin freely when it's time to remove them either, more headache then they're worth. Why I don't like to buy rusty vehicles, it's not just the rust you deal with (which never stops) it's all the corrosion everywhere else, like shitty grounds, corroded connectors ect ect. F that noise and that car. When it comes to Townies, I prefer 1988 and up, although I think '88 is the best year as they made some goofy cosmetic changes for '89 as if they ran out of stuff.. At least with '88 and up it's easier to wire in stereos and if the car in question simply has the premium stereo, the factory JBL is a drop in replacement. Hard to beat that. Oh yeah, starting in 1988 the base cluster was revised, it's now back lit as opposed to being flood lit and the warning lights were also revised. Late model '88's got functional CEL's and such.
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    oh, and just a mention, these have 5 digit odometers. Just because it says 65000 doesn't mean it can't be 165000. You can usually tell by looking at things though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    oh, and just a mention, these have 5 digit odometers. Just because it says 65000 doesn't mean it can't be 165000. You can usually tell by looking at things though.
    Yes, but at this point, literally any arsehole seller who claims 65k without mentioning it's only a 5 digit odo and having no complete service record history or even carfax or autocheck report is guilty of outright misrepresentation at best, or fraud at worst.
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    Sometimes you just don't really know. It could be 65k and then 20 years sitting out behind the barn.

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    If only I had a dollar for every car/truck for sale that listed some absurd low mileage in an very used up vehicle with five digit odometer, I could probably pay asking price for this Lincoln...

    Worked out well for me once. A local 88 wagon sat for years and years near my parents house. It disappeared then popped up in the junkyard. The car looked bad at a glance but only had 26K on it. Everyone else thought it was junk. I got a good lopo and AOD that look like factory fresh, and mostly are.
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    Take your time and fine the best panther you can for your money. In your part of the country, I would get the newest car you can get. There is plenty of cheap junk that will either nickel and dime you to death or fail you when you need it.
    I am sure you can find another late model panther for a reasonable figure. Expand your search area. Lots of small towns in MN.

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    I bought a similar car last year in the rust belt. We have safety inspections and mine came with a current sticker which counts for a lot. If you don't have inspections and it's on the road might be rotten underneath. check the oil pan they rust out pretty quick. also the tv bushing, i wouldn't feel comfortable driving it home on the original. like everyone else i'd say it is too high but the boxes are crawling up in price. if he has no service records i'd say junkyard price, like 5-700. mine was in nicer shape and owned by a middle-aged guy who did some services and i still put 3k into fixing broken stuff and maintenance but i can't have breakdowns. The one in MN being an 86 might need to budget for timing gears if you keep it long enough.

    Did you see these in your area. same price range, different issues with the 4.6, but newer
    https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/a...790575311.html
    https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/a...775944046.html
    https://stcloud.craigslist.org/cto/d...809578985.html

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    One note worth mentioning....86 cars do not have TV bushings up at the throttle body. Their TV cables and throttle body levers are different and do not utilize a TV bushing like the 87 and up cars do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sxcpotatoes View Post
    Yes, but at this point, literally any arsehole seller who claims 65k without mentioning it's only a 5 digit odo and having no complete service record history or even carfax or autocheck report is guilty of outright misrepresentation at best, or fraud at worst.
    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    Sometimes you just don't really know. It could be 65k and then 20 years sitting out behind the barn.
    This. I've seen so many GMT400 trucks going for sale with odometer fraud it's appalling. You don't even have to be a hack and you can change what the ODO reads without getting the silver bars inbetween the digits visible but most of these chumps have no shame. You can see the bars clearly in their pics, so something fishy is going yet they have the gall to say "original miles." Do people really not notice these things?
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    I've changed odometers myself, though it was a case of replacing the cluster in a car and wanting the replacement cluster to agree with actual mileage. Its possible to line them up properly but it requires some fussing to do it. Moving them is the easy part, the lining it all back up is what will drive you mad.

    At some point the car is old enough that it just doesn't matter too much. I think my Towncar is at 205k now, but maybe its 305k. I know its more than 105k. When I got it the odometer read 25k, and there was no way in hell it was not at least 125k.

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    Matters to me. Swapping an odometer from one of those things is easy, but I F'd up when trying to clean the original one and it wiped the numbers off. So I had to adjust the donor's ODO to match what my truck had originally. It was rubix cube like, but I was able to manage it with the black bars in place so it didn't have the look of odometer fraud. I like accuracy. Maybe the K1500 will hit 300k miles under my watch. Maybe I'll trade it for a 351 SEFI Ford. We'll see.

    Townies well yeah, that five digit shit is anyone's guess after it has said "bye-bye" to the original owner.
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