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    The drone is not to be dismissed. Mine drones bad enough around 50 in overdrive that I basically don't drive it locally anymore. All of the roads are 50 mph and I honestly just can't freaking stand it anymore. Handily the diesel is nearly silent, so I put miles on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    The drone is not to be dismissed. Mine drones bad enough around 50 in overdrive that I basically don't drive it locally anymore. All of the roads are 50 mph and I honestly just can't freaking stand it anymore. Handily the diesel is nearly silent, so I put miles on that.
    It's really bad in the coupe. I'm seriously debating having quieter mufflers put on.

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    Just use a different muffler. Chambered mufflers are notorious for drone. Even glasspacks aren't nearly as bad as flowmasters and their knockoffs. Look at Borla, Bassani, etc. I have Moroso spiral-flows that look like a glasspack but just have a spiral baffle inside. Sound pretty beefy and no drone.

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    Magnaflows on mine. I added a bunch of sound damper crap to the trunk and it reduced the peak volume, but it made the speed range where its annoying wider.

    maybe I should swap mufflers between the diesel and the Towncar. Towncar would be driveable and the diesel would sound like a bro-dozer.

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    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86VickyLX View Post
    It's not too bad if you can tune it out with the radio. The stock sound system is inadequate for that.
    LMAO, I second that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    maybe I should swap mufflers between the diesel and the Towncar. Towncar would be driveable and the diesel would sound like a bro-dozer.
    Time to let the coal roll!

    I like the quiet muffler on the 90. It’s still fun to have loud exhaust sometimes but most of the time quiet wins. I’m a 32 year old old man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 86VickyLX View Post
    It's really bad in the coupe. I'm seriously debating having quieter mufflers put on.
    Dynomax/Walker 17749; they're large cased mufflers, but they quieted the lopo down to near stock level. With the 351W, I am going to install glasspacks on the tailpipes just in case.

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    So...
    I've narrowed this down a little. I'll add to this as I go for future reference. My timeline is to be finished by October next year.

    Haves: 351W unassembled. '73 casting, virgin bore. The temptation to go too deep and make a simple 393 out of is a heavy burden at this point.
    We'll roller-ize this thing and grind a cam to suit my needs.
    AFR 165's Smaller valves.. higher velocity.. more torque.
    75MM BBK throttle body

    Needs: 351 A/C compressor mount
    Swap headers
    H-pipe
    Intake set-up
    Megasquirt rig. (this excites me.. simplicity and quality)
    More tires
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    All FORD All The Time

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch47 View Post
    So...
    I've narrowed this down a little. I'll add to this as I go for future reference. My timeline is to be finished by October next year.

    Haves: 351W unassembled. '73 casting, virgin bore. The temptation to go too deep and make a simple 393 out of is a heavy burden at this point.
    We'll roller-ize this thing and grind a cam to suit my needs.
    AFR 165's Smaller valves.. higher velocity.. more torque.
    75MM BBK throttle body

    Needs: 351 A/C compressor mount
    Swap headers
    H-pipe
    Intake set-up
    Megasquirt rig. (this excites me.. simplicity and quality)
    More tires
    Time
    I suggest hitting up a demo derby group to find the a/c bracketry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86VickyLX View Post
    I suggest hitting up a demo derby group to find the a/c bracketry.
    That sounds like a great idea, I never considered that. Those guys probably wouldn’t mind making a few bucks off something that would be worth a fraction of a penny at the scrap yard.
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    Agreed. Great Ideer.
    All FORD All The Time

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    I'm going to resurrect this thread with some questions! Earlier in the thread it is mentioned to use the Professional Products Typhoon intake for the big boy 351. I get that the uppers are the same between the 302 and the 351 versions. But I can't find a part number for the 351 lower on the Pro Products website. The only one they list for the 351 Typhoon is a carb style intake, not the plenum style efi intake. Does anyone have the part numbers floating around?
    This would save about a grand over hunting a tubular Lightning/GT40 intake on youtube for those of us that want big cubes and no hood scoops.

    Thanks!

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    just a mention about those, I watch a fair bit of machinist content on Youtube. Recently saw a guy fixing one of those PPI intakes for a 5.0. There are 4 machined surfaces on the lower intake, thermostat, upper intake, and the two head surfaces. None of them were actually flat, and it was so bad that it wouldn't seal. Not sure what the labor to re-surface the whole intake is but I can't help but wonder if the purchase price + repair price is really cheaper than the Edelbrock that it copies.

    https://youtu.be/sVBoxqVpfOM

    all told its a solid hour and a half of watching chips shave off aluminum but the first few minutes will show where the problems are. Just something you might want to check before bolting it on the car if you buy one. If a straight edge rocks or shows light on a gasket surface you may have problems.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

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    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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    I have no problem paying the price for the Edelbrock version. I would actually prefer the Edelbrock over the knock off in the interest of supporting US Engineering and Manufacture. But does the Edelbrock 351 lower and 302 upper combo fit under the stock hood?

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