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    Can oil leak into the plug/coil well from any other source than the valve cover(s)? If I replace the VC gaskets; would it be worth my time to swap in aftermarket aluminum valve covers? I have a plug well that is completely filled with oil; rear driver side plug well. I知 gonna replace the VC gasket, but the long term fix may be the valve cover itself. We値l see how it goes for the next few months

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    This is common with the 2v, its actually coolant. Does your car sit a lot?


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    No; I commute 70-80 miles per day. It only sits for repairs and maintenance. It痴 a 2005 MGM that I got 3.5 years ago with only 70k on the odometer.

    Another question: does anybody have tips on removing stubborn spark plugs? I have a 3/8 ratchet and it痴 not moving at all; despite having soaked in oil for whatever period of time.

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    I replaced the coils and plugs. 3 of the 4 drivers side plugs had liquid; the front plug was dry. All passenger side plugs were dry. I noticed a little/tiny bubbling action at the rear of the intake manifold. I知 gonna guess I need intake gaskets. That will be for another time; I may go and torque all of the intake bolts to spec next weekend

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    Sounds about right. Ive had that happen on my 02 gt as well but it sits so I havent done anything about it. Youll probably need new intake gaskets though. Hopefully retorquing them works though.


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    For getting stubborn plugs out... Tighten them a hair if you can... then try backing off. Also, you will need to go back and forth as you go once you do get it to start moving. May have to lubricate immediately upon breaking it free. Breaker bar may be needed (loosen only), but only to break it loose. Don't use the breaker to un-thread it as you'll gall the threads (this is the reason for the back and forth on the way out). And good luck.

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    Thanks SLY. My Dad suggested I use the dying electric impact I have. It is quite weak, but is good for these jobs. I used that and had no problems getting them released. I used Never-Sieze on the new plugs despite a lot of people saying not to. I did this because I was told a while back, to use that for spark plugs in aluminum heads. I will probably replace the intake manifold when I do the gasket. Might as well if I got it all apart anyways.

    Picture is of the coolant-filled plug hole. I discovered that some holes on the passenger were dry, but had a film of dirt in them. I think that was what was mixing with the coolant on the driver-side holes; which initially made me believe it was oil. Valve cover flanges look dry.

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    Yes. Never-seize on plugs in aluminum heads or you may have to DRILL them out after the next 100K. Torque to the top end of the spec too. I think it was something like 15 or 17 ft-lbs?

    Which reminds me... I need to check the torque on my wife's car's intake manifold. Had to re-torque it last year because everything had backed off (or the gaskets squished) and the bolts were finger tight at best. Need to re-torque those to make sure no crap running on the child chariot.

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    I believe its 11-15 ft/lbs so most shoot for 13. 15 is about the limit Id go. Im assuming that the 05s had 8 thread heads so it shouldnt be an issue like the earlier heads but Id still be weary since it is aluminum after all.


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    Yeah. I usually go for 15 since that's near the bottom end of my click stick.

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    Torque spark plugs? Never thought of that, lol.

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    Aluminum heads with barely any thread engagement. You want to be careful otherwise you end up with self-ejecting spark plugs. There is a fix, basically a fancy heli-coil, but the idea of drilling and tapping the cylinder head with it on the engine gives me the willies. Nothing I know about engines tells me that dumping metal chips into a cylinder is a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    Aluminum heads with barely any thread engagement. You want to be careful otherwise you end up with self-ejecting spark plugs. There is a fix, basically a fancy heli-coil, but the idea of drilling and tapping the cylinder head with it on the engine gives me the willies. Nothing I know about engines tells me that dumping metal chips into a cylinder is a good idea.
    Yeah had to get one time-serted in my '98. Ran fine for another 7 years after that before it got robbed of it's front end and crushed. Broke my heart.

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