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    Default Shocks for early box

    My '86 Coupe 'Sherrie' is soft in the backside.
    Not enough to warrant a spring swap YET.
    She's getting new shocks next week, and I thought about some coil-overs to increase her happiness when I put 2 people in the back seat.
    I searched this thread for shock posts and couldn't get a good clear answer so I thought I'd try this before I just go blindly on my way.

    Looking for advice/experience with your shocks.
    Thanks ya'll.
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    I’ve been running KYB Police rate shocks on all corners for a ‘97 CVPI under my ‘87 for a while. Firm, but not harsh.

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    I found NOS 1988 rear shocks. They're mushy but they were very cheap. Just watch the mounting hardware. I had trouble with the last set I had on mine. The bolt was a bit smaller than the hole and it ended up slopping around in there, causing strange axle hop problems and annoying sounds. I've had decent luck with KYB stuff in the past.


    The saggy ass thing might be more tired rear springs.

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    the kyb gr2's on my car are over 15 yrs old.

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    I have coil over shocks on the 90 CV and one of the 89 TCs. I really like them as they stiffen up the ride, help with loads, seem to help with handling and raise the rear stance a little.
    I have also had "Air lift" air bags inside the springs on another Lincoln and a Mercury. Those were good along with HD shocks. I prefer the coil over shocks over the air bags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    I have coil over shocks on the 90 CV and one of the 89 TCs. I really like them as they stiffen up the ride, help with loads, seem to help with handling and raise the rear stance a little.
    I have also had "Air lift" air bags inside the springs on another Lincoln and a Mercury. Those were good along with HD shocks. I prefer the coil over shocks over the air bags.
    Any specific brand or type of coil overs.? I think this is where I'm headed..
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    Somebody here was running QA1's on their car. Was it Merc91? Haven't seen or heard from him in a while. Be good to know what model# as i've been considering this myself.

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    After reading a thousand different threads here, I've decided on the springs too.
    She's a coupe....and I'm going to try the #925 and #175 springs from speedway. What the hell. I'll be under there anyway.
    Still haven't decided on Shocks.... but I'm leaning toward the KYB's.. Never had them before.
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    KYB Gas-A-Justs have been my go to.

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    With stiffer springs you want stiffer shocks. Gas-A-Just at a minimum, no mushy shocks with heavy springs or its going to suck. probably want something stiffer really, but frankly I don't know what is the right thing to use.

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    had a customer come into the meineke i worked at with a 56 crown victoria, he was looking for better shocks. pulled 4 shocks off the shelf for a 84 crown vic cop car and they fit the 56. ford did not change a whole lot there from the end of ww2 to 2002 lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodachrome Wolf View Post
    KYB Gas-A-Justs have been my go to.
    Me too. I have them in both my '78 and '89.

    The '78 has soft original springs and they work great and the '89 has Moog heavy duty CC817 cargo coils and they work well on that as well. (Though after a couple of years, I wouldn't recommend the CC817 springs... they're too stiff)

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    After reading all of these I just can't come up with a better plan for springs.
    The stockers are soft enough now that Sherrie lists to the drivers side when I'm onboard.
    I've dropped 60 lbs in the last 3 years, but if you saw me rolling in Sherrie you'd think I was Fat Bastards younger brother.
    So they gotta go.
    The speedway springs are stiffer...should level things out...and not make my ride height too high...? Remember..it's a coupe.
    If the whole car goes down an inch..evenly... I'll be OK with that.
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    im in the market for the same setup and have probably read the same things you have time and time again. i finally decided on speedways at all 4 corners 925/200 and probably mid grade KYB. so those got my vote and it seems to be the best all around setup from what im reading on here. honestly cant find a reason not to give em a try
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodachrome Wolf View Post
    I’ve been running KYB Police rate shocks on all corners for a ‘97 CVPI under my ‘87 for a while. Firm, but not harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marquis_82_withneons View Post
    im in the market for the same setup and have probably read the same things you have time and time again. i finally decided on speedways at all 4 corners 925/200 and probably mid grade KYB. so those got my vote and it seems to be the best all around setup from what im reading on here. honestly cant find a reason not to give em a try

    What made you decide on the 925/200 combo.??
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch47 View Post
    What made you decide on the 925/200 combo.??
    long story short, i want to drop it from from factory height, retain the boat ride, and use an off the shelf part. i spent alot of time researching other peoples success and gauged my scenario off of that. the 925/150(?) i think was the softest ride with the most level stance. i plan to build a relatively large audio setup in the back along with (worst case scenario) a full tank of gas and 2 people in the back and not rip my wheel lip mouldings off. so im opting for the slightly higher rate of 200.

    in the end i picked the speedways for their reputation among box owners, their slight ride height lowering, and increased stiffness over stock. my complaint is that they wont technically be low enough for what i want and they're a bit stiffer than id like, but best bang for buck i think.

    side note, i would recommend any/all bushings at the same time.. stiffer springs quickly pointed out my 35yr old mushy control arm bushings...
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    you're not going to retain the boat ride, I can tell you that. I've driven a box with those springs, can't remember if it was the 150 or the 200 in the back, but def the 925 up front. It wasn't obnoxious, but it was absolutely not the stock floaty-boaty ride. Paired with a larger sway bar front and back it handled quite nicely though.

    if you're going to the trouble of doing springs, just rebuild the whole suspension. No better time to do a brake upgrade either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    you're not going to retain the boat ride, I can tell you that. I've driven a box with those springs, can't remember if it was the 150 or the 200 in the back, but def the 925 up front. It wasn't obnoxious, but it was absolutely not the stock floaty-boaty ride. Paired with a larger sway bar front and back it handled quite nicely though.

    if you're going to the trouble of doing springs, just rebuild the whole suspension. No better time to do a brake upgrade either.
    yea i figured as much. in my situation i just convinced myself the handling was worth the sacrifice. lol

    also, +1 on the suspension... im doing the rear end swap and bushings currently as well as my shocks/springs. basically a 110% overhaul of the suspension. i cant imagine doing it piece by piece. definitely do it all together if you can, im finding its quite easier..
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