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    #31
    Awesome! I can use the crimpers at work to do it at lunch.

    Next question, the wiring has me stumped, I thought I had it figures out but I can't figure out what is original and what is added by the PO.
    I have 3 plugs coming out at the radio hole,:
    12 pin connector is for the speakers, all good there, no hackery
    First 4 pin connector, has 3 pins filled, one of them is the Y/Bk keyed power wire and splits into 2 wires 8" further back into the dash via a bullet connector Y thing.
    Second 4 pin connector, comes out of the dash from the glovebox side and was the one that was spliced into by the PO.

    Does anyone have a picture of what the wiring is supposed to be back there in an '86? The factory wiring diagrams are a bit inconsistent and don't show the physical harness very well.

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    Thanks!
    Last edited by kellen302; 01-30-2020, 10:52 PM.
    1986 Country Squire
    1969 Mercury Cougar
    1960 Land Rover Series II 88"

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      #32
      The weird bullet connector thing is for either the optional CB or the optional cell phone. Or maybe it went from being one to the other, but either way its factory.

      from my 86 Towncar EVTM, the 12 pin connector is all speakers. Should be C356 if it tracks with the Lincoln stuff
      The other connector is C342
      orange/light blue is remote trigger to the premium sound amp
      light green/yellow constant hot from fuse 8
      light blue / red is dash lighting
      yellow/black is key-on hot


      there isn't a third plug, so not sure what you've got there, unless thats perhaps for the power antenna switch? That has a yellow/black, a red/pink. and a dark green / yellow
      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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        #33
        Alright, Figured I would go ahead and make a guide on the teardown and replacement of belts, or the cassette mechanism.

        This is for the 4 button Premium/Electronic radio in 1986, presumably similar for other years.
        This assumes you already have the radio out and sitting on a table. Do not try this in the car because you will lose tiny screws.
        You will need:
        Nut drivers in these sizes:
        1/4in
        3/16in
        5/32in (swapping decks only)
        1/8in (Optional)
        10mm (swapping decks only) Can also be wrench

        Picks of various configurations, the little dentist like ones.
        Tiny needle nose pliers, (swapping decks only)
        Tiny cutters/flush cuts (swapping decks only)


        Remove all of the case screws with the 1/4in nut driver. All sides

        Remove the 2 screws holding the faceplate on at the sides with the 3/16 driver.

        Pull off all of the rotating knobs on the front, including the scan/Band knobs

        Carefully remove the faceplate first, then the top and bottom covers.

        If you are just replacing belts, this is your final step, flip the unit over and take a picture of the belt arrangement. Now pull the belts off and clean the pulley faces with an alcohol soaked Q tip. They may not look dirty but they are.
        Slip the new belts on with the picks making sure they do not get twisted. You may have to bend some of the guide tabs out a little bit if you used the 1.2mm thick belt for the long one, don't pry against the pulleys.
        Put it back together if you are not swapping the decks.

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        If you are swapping the decks, go ahead and get yourself a beverage.

        With the radio upside down. Look at the front and remove the 2 nuts that hold the deck structure to the main frame with a 10mm wrench, these nuts go on the potentiometers for balance/fade/vol.

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        Looking at the bottom where the drive pulleys are, towards the back you will see a bundle of wires zip tied to the frame. Cut this zip tie.

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        You will now see a tab/slot arrangement. Pry the tab away from the tape mechanism until it releases the tape mechanism.

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        Start taking pictures, the wire routing is small and fiddly but can be done. All of these wires have a plug and pin at one end or the other, no soldering required unless you break a connection.
        Small pliers are key for pulling the plugs, the black plugs were tougher on mine and prying between the board and the plug with a 90° pick worked well. Stick the point between the pins and twist the handle to pop the connector up.
        Make sure to pay attention to the orientation of the plugs as they are not keyed.

        Looking at the drive pulley side. Unplug the grey multi conductor cable in the grey sheath that you just un-zip tied.

        Un plug the White single wire going to the main board

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        Unplug the Orange/Black/Tan triple connector to the main board

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        Unplug the Red/Blue/Purple triple connector to the main board

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        Unplug the Purple/Green double connector on the cassette mechanism right behind the side buttons (left side looking at the front when the radio is upside down)

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        Follow the single Purple wire underneath that double connector to the underside board.


        Follow the long Red/Green double wire underneath as well and unplug it.

        You should be able to carefully lift the deck up and out now. You may have to go forward first to get over the potentiometer knobs.


        The 2 smallest driver sizes are for separating the button panel from the tape mechanism, this may be necessary if you can't get it over the knobs as a unit.



        Put it back together in the reverse of removal, I mean it, this was the easiest order to do the plugs in.


        Go get a stiffer drink than you started with.
        1986 Country Squire
        1969 Mercury Cougar
        1960 Land Rover Series II 88"

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          #34
          Looks like the same picture was uploaded several times. If the correct pictures are uploaded, one of the mods can probably fix the post.

          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
          Originally posted by gadget73
          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
          Originally posted by dmccaig
          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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            #35
            I highlighted different areas of the pictures to show the different plugs. A bit easier to understand than having 6 steps on one image
            1986 Country Squire
            1969 Mercury Cougar
            1960 Land Rover Series II 88"

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              #36
              After some poking around with the multimeter I have determined the plug that goes to the back of the radio. So that is the one I need to put the Orange/Blue wire into for the Amp 12V sense/trigger.
              However, I checked for power at the amp and I am getting neither keyed power or Battery power. The keyed power should be coming from one of the plugs near the back of the radio according to the diagrams.
              If anyone has a picture of what connectors are behind the stock Premium Sound Electronic radio that would be great! Not necessarily plugged into the radio, just around it.
              I think I am missing one and the wires were shuffled around.
              I think it goes just up and to the right of the radio.

              As a side note, the 4 channel amp only came with the Non Electronic conventional radio/Premium sound package. The 2 channel amp only came with the electronic radio premium sound package. This is consistent with the Fox Bodies of similar year.
              Last edited by kellen302; 02-04-2020, 09:41 PM.
              1986 Country Squire
              1969 Mercury Cougar
              1960 Land Rover Series II 88"

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                #37
                Originally posted by kellen302 View Post
                I highlighted different areas of the pictures to show the different plugs. A bit easier to understand than having 6 steps on one image
                Now I see it. I was missing the red squares. Kinda blended in with the rest of it at first glance.

                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                Originally posted by gadget73
                ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                Originally posted by dmccaig
                Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                  #38
                  Alright, if anyone has been following my rambling I have figured out what I am missing in my harness. There is a small jumper harness from C1101 to C1101A (Radio connector) this jumper is where the Orange/LB wire comes in, and where the split to send keyed power to the amp is. The picture attached is my (poorly drawn) diagram. The EVTM and FSM show all of these connections but some are spread throughout sections. For example, the radio illumination wire is shown on the dash lights diagram, but not the radio wiring diagram.
                  The Diagram I have attached is only for the 4 pin power connector on the radio (C1101A)
                  I need to get another male 4 pin connector and pin these wires back in. The PO left the female side plugged in and this is what they hacked into for radio power to bypass the amp.

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                  1986 Country Squire
                  1969 Mercury Cougar
                  1960 Land Rover Series II 88"

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                    #39
                    Here is the terminal I have, and found in the same harness in an '83 T Bird. Still searching for it, I'll try the Fox Body people
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                    1986 Country Squire
                    1969 Mercury Cougar
                    1960 Land Rover Series II 88"

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                      #40
                      not exactly sure what that is. The usual wider one looks like this

                      https://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Fo...e-p/a14889.htm

                      fits a 3/16 wide blade.

                      surprised your terminals are not the same as what my Continental had. The radio in my car came out of an 86 Towncar, but previously I had one from an 87 Vic in it.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #41
                        It looks like they switched in '87 for the Ford/Merc lines. Lincoln must have had the nicer stuff a few years ahead of everyone else.
                        1986 Country Squire
                        1969 Mercury Cougar
                        1960 Land Rover Series II 88"

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by kellen302 View Post
                          ...Lincoln must have had the nicer stuff a few years ahead of everyone else.
                          As it was and should be. Back then you got prestige from buying the premium car. Especially back in the 50's. By the 80's, that was pretty much all gone. I think Cadillac shut down their Cadillac exclusive factory and switched production to Arlington in the early 80's.. Ford later killed Wixom too. But even though you still got a car based on a platform shared by Ford and Mercury, your car was still built in a different plant. Now that's totally dead, no real perks to speak of short of accessories and an inflated price tag to accompany it. Oh, different badging too.
                          1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
                          1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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                            #43
                            Alrigght Dear Reader,

                            The terminals were a pain in the d**k to track down, after being lead down the wrong path by LMR and a very unhelpful local stereo shop, and a wiring harness specialist that had no idea what they were. I was able to get some from Ron Francis Wiring. They are not a normally stocked part, but a picture in an email and they knew exactly what it was. The invoice says "Ford Inertia Connector Style Terminals".
                            After a cold evening stripping and crimping I got it all plugged in and no sound... Much checking of the wiring diagrams and I was more confused, in '86 they had a round robin style of wire colors, some are the same as the diagram, some were running changes, there are even duplicate colors for different circuits in the diagrams as well as the actual vehicle.

                            Turns out that the aftermarket adapter plugs for going from Ford Speakers to spade connectors on aftermarket speakers were so loose that they wouldn't even make a connection unless jiggled.
                            The amp might still be dead, but I will go to the junkyard and get some speaker connectors before I make that determination.
                            1986 Country Squire
                            1969 Mercury Cougar
                            1960 Land Rover Series II 88"

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                              #44
                              I had that problem with the adapters in my 93. I ended up just cutting them off and soldering the wires from the new speakers directly to the factory wires. The pins were about a quarter inch too short to really make good contact. Very annoying.

                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                              Originally posted by dmccaig
                              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                                #45
                                rear speakers in the Conti are plug-less. Someone cut them before I got it. They were originally just pushed through the holes and twisted. They have crimp terminals now, but only because I had to run new wires from the amp to the rear speakers as part of the JBL amp swap. The original setup ran the speakers direct from the radio, and those got re-purposed to amplifier input wires.
                                86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                                91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                                1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                                Originally posted by phayzer5
                                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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