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    I didnít know where to put this so here it goes. Iím swapping out my old leaking power steering pump on my 87 mgm but I ran into an issue. The top bolt came out fine but I canít get the other two. I figured I could back them out enough to pull the pump forward and get them the rest of the way but I can see now thats not possible. So now I took off the fan shroud and moved it to the side to get the pulley puller on it. Now the issue is that I canít get enough torque on it to free the pulley. Is there another way of doing this or will I have to pull the fan and shroud and try to get an impact on it?


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    might try some oil, but those pullies are pretty tight. Impact should not be needed but you may need a 1/2" ratchet for leverage. Might also be worth trying to wire brush right at the end of the pump shaft. if it has a small band of rust and crap it will be much harder to remove. Might help to try pushing the pulley on a tiny bit further, cleaning, then pulling it.

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    Thanks Iíll give it a whirl tomorrow.


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    Finally got the damn pulley off



    Now I canít get the stupid lines off but I think Iíll get new ones just for good measure anyway.


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    You really did it the hard way. I struggled with fan and fan shroud removed. You are a glutton for punishment. Nice work!
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    Haha thanks! Yeah I know but I didnít want to remove the fan for the billionth time. Oh well I got it. On a side note my back is killing me from being hunched over the fender. I wish it was a truck with a lot of room for an impact driver.


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    For the return line, just cut it. The rubber turns rock hard and you're more likely to break the tit on the pump than to get that line off. Replace it with bulk trans cooler hose. If yours is a factory one that is crimped instead of clamped at the steering box end, just cut the crimp off and clamp it.

    and yeah I kinda forgot how tight the PS pump is into the fan shroud on these. I'm guessing I at least pulled the shroud out of my way when I did it on the Towncar. been a while. The Conti is actually quite forgiving in that regard. the PS pump is right on top and the fan shroud is offset to the side so I've got pretty good access.

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    I take the pump and bracket off as a whole and separate the two while off the car.
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    possible I did that too. Honestly I don't remember at this point but I don't remember fighting with the fan shroud. That bracket comes off without too much fuss. Pull the alternator, the long bolts into the head, and a couple nuts off the water pump and it will come away.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

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    Iíll go that route then. They arenít factory, my buddy replaced them when one of the lines blew when he owned it.


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    Not having a box any more (and e-fan swapped mine anyhow) I also forgot how tight that crap is in there. Stupid easy to get at on the Aeros and whales.

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    I miss my old whale but its nice having a good olí box with a pushrod. To be honest Iím a big 4.6 guy but I have a soft spot for small blocks.


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    need you a diesel powered Fox. I put the pump back on in about 30 minutes. Get to to it again tomorrow because I completely failed at rebuilding the pump.

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    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

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    Finally got it all back together, it only took half of forever lol. Taking the fan and shroud off helped a lot I only wish I wasnít so stubborn and took it off sooner lol. Anyway no more leaks, no noise and both belts seem to be holding up fine, even my stupid ac belt but only time will tell.


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    nice. Sometime more disassembly actually saves you time in the long run.
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    I was surprised by how quickly I got it all back together. Really taking the fan and shroud off took no time too. Iím just stubborn lol.

    Now thats over onto the next project, cleaning up the paint and interior!


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    A good puller really makes the job less hateful too. I tried to rent one and it was broken. Bought one at the parts store that was so badly made it wouldn't grab anything. Bought myself a nice Lisle puller/installer and that works like you'd expect. One of those tools I figured I'd use once, but I've used it probably a half dozen times now.

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    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

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    I got one off the shelf from Autozone and it worked like it should. I had to run back to rent another one but I later found out the installer piece I thought I didnít have I actually did...


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    the threads on the one from Advance were no longer there. I'm guessing some idiot cross-threaded it, or just reefed on it with an impact until it gave up.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Quote Originally Posted by phayzer5 View Post
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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    Thats what I was afraid of but luckily I couldnt get an impact in there or else Iíd probably do the same lol.


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