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    Thanks. Iíll take it back tomorrow and try again.

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    I hooked up the garden hose and did my best to spray the salt off the car today. I also got some better pics even though the light wasn't cooperating with me. I've previously only bought cars in the summer and always had time to get pics during good light, not so much this time of year. The scratches on the trunk lid and the spot on the passenger fender are the worst spots on the car. I found some new scratches today on the roof. I swear for having one previous owner who obviously took care of this car mechanically they sure did abuse it in some way. I don't know what if anything I'm going to do about the dents in the drivers side rear bumper cover, the tailpipe is also slightly bent. I'm guessing whatever they backed into went right between the pipe and bumper. But it's still on there solid no broken hangers or anything. I really need to get over it and stop worrying about it this is my daily driver not a show car after all.















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    To help prevent further rot in the front fenders, you should spray some kind of rust inhibitor inside them. With the wheels off, take out the fender liner bolts and use those holes to get a bent straw from a spray can of a suitable product in there and soak away.

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    Trunk lid scratches are from people putting crap on the trunk lid that was inside the car then dragging it across. Watched my sis do it on her Honda years ago. I cringed for the car. Or there was some crap on the snow brush.

    Looks like the rear driver quarter got crunched a tiny bit from when they backed up. Look how the body meets the corner of the tail light. And the body shell/drop panel on that side may be bent a little too. Either way, if you want perfection, you'll want another bumper cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IPreferDIY View Post
    To help prevent further rot in the front fenders, you should spray some kind of rust inhibitor inside them. With the wheels off, take out the fender liner bolts and use those holes to get a bent straw from a spray can of a suitable product in there and soak away.
    Thatís the plan, Iím just waiting for a little bit nicer weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TecNickal View Post
    Trunk lid scratches are from people putting crap on the trunk lid that was inside the car then dragging it across. Watched my sis do it on her Honda years ago. I cringed for the car. Or there was some crap on the snow brush.

    Looks like the rear driver quarter got crunched a tiny bit from when they backed up. Look how the body meets the corner of the tail light. And the body shell/drop panel on that side may be bent a little too. Either way, if you want perfection, you'll want another bumper cover.
    Every panther Iíve owned has had misaligned taillights and quarter panels. I just figured it was piss poor assembly at the factory. Iíve seen brand new cars come off the lot with alignment issues on body panels, lights, and interiors.

    The bumper cover doesnít really bother me but I need to get that tail pipe tucked back up in there.

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    I got my Marti report today!

    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE - Purchased 02/19/20 at 96,500, current Daily Driver.
    2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - Purchased 07/29/19 at 69,500, sold 2/14/20 at 85,500.
    2001 Lincoln Town Car Executive Series - Purchased 04/18/15 at 108,653, traded in 05/02/16 at 139,000.
    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
    1988 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Purchased 6/26/11 at 82,610 totalled 4/16/15 at 137,000, Not my fault.

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    Find anything on the matri that does not jive with the vehicle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Find anything on the matri that does not jive with the vehicle?
    Nope but Iíve heard of people having that issue. Mainly on older cars that have been wrecked and rebuilt multiple times.

    My spare tire cover and cargo net are missing which is fairly common. Iíd like to know what ďdeluxe luggage compartment trimĒ is. Considering it doesnít even have carpeting on the inside of the trunk lid. But Iíve only seen that in Lincolnís. It doesnít have the factory option 6 disc changer but has a dealer installed 10 disc changer that works great.
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    Looks like Marti ran out of room on the report for details haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TecNickal View Post
    Looks like Marti ran out of room on the report for details haha.
    One thing that I thought was interesting was that I saw another Marti report from a 2003 LSE and ďheadlights on with wipersĒ was listed as an option. I figured that would have been standard. My Ď02 has it and both my town cars had it. I donít know when it became available but my Ď95 did not have it. Also I prefer the intermittent wipers to the TCís rain sensing wipers. They were cool at first but sometimes they just did dumb stuff.

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    Iím going to try to tackle the blend door actuator tomorrow. Itís going clunk, clunk, clunk. The motorcraft part from Tasca will be here in the morning. Iíve read how and seen videos on taking it out through where the passenger airbag is. Looks like the worst part is getting the bolts out of the actuator. Hopefully everything will go smooth.

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    Changed oil with the ford 5w-20 synthetic blend and an FL-820S. Cost all of $24 from Walmart. The sticker on the windshield said the last oil change was by Midas last August 3100 miles ago. They obviously over torqued both the drain plug and filter, I hate that shit. Then I attempted to tackle the blend door actuator. What a fun job that was.

    3 hours, several hundred swear words, some scrapes, cuts, and bruises and it's done. The worst part was getting the old one out and getting the passenger vent duct back in. I lost a 9/32Ē socket and 2Ē extension trying to get the top bolt out of the vent duct. I hope itís somewhere where it wonít rattle around and annoy me for the rest of my life. I also had the experience of praying that I didnít set off the bomb bag therefore sending myself wherever it is that sloppy mechanics go when they say their last "Oops."

    My right hand is sore and looks like it may have been mauled but I have cold and hot air on demand. I really hope I never have to do this again.
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    2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - Purchased 07/29/19 at 69,500, sold 2/14/20 at 85,500.
    2001 Lincoln Town Car Executive Series - Purchased 04/18/15 at 108,653, traded in 05/02/16 at 139,000.
    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
    1988 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Purchased 6/26/11 at 82,610 totalled 4/16/15 at 137,000, Not my fault.

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    Check that tire size. I always thought those came with 225/60R16. 255 is a noticeably wider tire. Might be a misprint on the report, door sticker would have OE tire size.

    BDA is no fun. Did you do the heater core while you were in there? They are neighbors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    Check that tire size. I always thought those came with 225/60R16. 255 is a noticeably wider tire. Might be a misprint on the report, door sticker would have OE tire size.

    BDA is no fun. Did you do the heater core while you were in there? They are neighbors.
    No I did not. The coolant is exceptionally clean in this car, and "knock on wood" I've had good luck with heater cores thus far. I thought the whole dash had to come out to do the heater core? It has Goodyear 225/60/16's on it. I guess there was a misprint on the report. I must have overlooked that considering it wasn't info I was particularly interested in.
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    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
    1988 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Purchased 6/26/11 at 82,610 totalled 4/16/15 at 137,000, Not my fault.

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    Iíve noticed that I tend to start readers rides threads when I get a new panther and then quickly forget them. Or I go years without using the forum at all. Iím going to try to remedy that. I think Iím going to post every little thing I do to the car. Even if no one reads it or cares. At least Iíll have something to look back on someday.

    I did an oil change on Friday. There was a sticker on the windshield from either a Midas or penzoil in the Cleveland area from August 2019, 3100 miles ago.

    The oil level was fine, the old oil was still light brown. The drain plug and filter were both retard tight. I used an FL-820s and the Ford synthetic 5w-20. $4 for the filter and $20 for the oil at Walmart. $8 and $30 at OíReilly! Checked the oil today after 200 miles. Still full and still almost clear. Maybe for once I bought a vehicle someone took care of. Itís extremely clean underneath, the entire frame is still black and floors are perfect. Iím guessing it hasnít been in the rust belt for too long.

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    First oil changes on new to you cars can be an adventure. My mother in law bought a Fiesta and whoever did the oil last time felt it necessary to loctite the plug and filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    First oil changes on new to you cars can be an adventure. My mother in law bought a Fiesta and whoever did the oil last time felt it necessary to loctite the plug and filter.
    My first panther was a '95 Grand Marquis I got from my grandparents. They didn't believe in oil changes. I got the car in 2009 with about 108,000 on it. The date on the windshield oil change sticker was 2004! I can't recall how many miles it had been but I know they drove a lot. Surprisingly it ran fine and didn't burn or leak any oil in the 6 months I had it. Which is impressive considering the neglect it had suffered and the fact that the pre '96 4.6's were known for valve seal issues.
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    2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - Purchased 07/29/19 at 69,500, sold 2/14/20 at 85,500.
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    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
    1988 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Purchased 6/26/11 at 82,610 totalled 4/16/15 at 137,000, Not my fault.

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    Nice buy! Does it still have the OEM floor mats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 79lincolnlover View Post
    Nice buy! Does it still have the OEM floor mats?
    Yes it does and they're barely worn. A little dirty but I'm gonna scrub the carpet/mats when we get some warmer weather anyway. Going by my brochure the only options it doesn't have is the full size spare and factory 6 disc changer. But it has a dealer installed 10 disc changer that works perfectly. If I ever come across 1 HPP wheel for sale I may buy it and put a tire on it, having a full size spare is nice. I could always just get a steel wheel too. I'll have to check the local You-Pull-It yard one of these days.
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    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE - Purchased 02/19/20 at 96,500, current Daily Driver.
    2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - Purchased 07/29/19 at 69,500, sold 2/14/20 at 85,500.
    2001 Lincoln Town Car Executive Series - Purchased 04/18/15 at 108,653, traded in 05/02/16 at 139,000.
    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
    1988 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Purchased 6/26/11 at 82,610 totalled 4/16/15 at 137,000, Not my fault.

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