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    Oh gawd, that is one of the worst oil filters a person could ever put on a vehicle..
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    The old fram extra guards had rubber ADBV, these new ones have silicone. Basically the same filter otherwise. I mean, it's not Walmart SuperTech awful. As long as the Motorcraft filter fits, it will be going on next oil change which will probably be 3k miles even though synthetic usually goes longer.
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    ~ 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis LS "The Scab" - plenty of rot, summer DD
    ~ 1997 GMC Yukon - wannabe winter DD - returning summer 2020, I finally have an engine
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    I never had any issues with the orange Frams. Used them for quite a while. Also the grippy texture is awesome. Had no issues with the Supertechs either but noticed the newer ones are smaller.

    Now I use Wix made Pro-Tec cheapo filters I got on closeout on RA for like $1.25 a piece.
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    I own 6 fords and always use Motorcraft filters with zero issues. Eco boost, modular v8, SOHC V6, ohv V6, the fords really seem to like those filters for some reason.
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    The filter bases of the cheapo orange frams that the pleats mate up to are cardboard, not to mention they've got considerably fewer pleats than other filters. The bypass valve is shit construction too. Plenty of recent videos on the YouTube of them being cut open. The fram above that one is OK. Basically, if they feel too light- pass.
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    Agree about the Frams. I will add the ultra series is well built and suitable for extended use.
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    Iíve read on another forum that the best two filters for mod motors are Motorcraft and Wix. I donít think it was scientifically proven but it was concluded that both had a good anti drainback valve, good number of pleats and would hold pressure for startup to prevent knock on startup. Like others, I only use motorcraft filters myself and am satisfied with them.


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    I also only run motorcraft filters on the 4.6. I get the Ford 5w-20 synthetic blend at WalMart for $16.99 for the 5 quart jug. The FL820S is $4.99 there. At the auto parts stores that oil is $30 and the filter is $8! Also at the local WalMart the Motorcraft filter is the cheapest of the 4.6 compatible filters. I just did my second oil change on the LSE two weeks ago, one big tip that helps with the filter turn the wheels all the way to the left. Makes it a lot easier to get up in there.
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    I think the Motorcraft filters are made by WIX. I used to run Motorcraft filters on all of my Fords and AC Smelcos on my GM stuff up until about three or four years ago when I switched exclusively to the WIX XP filters. I just pulled a Smelco of the Fireturd last week. Couldn't find an XP for it so it got a regular WIX. It also got Rotella T6. I haven't gotten a ticket in four years. If I keep driving that thing, it's bound to change.. Ever time I look down at the damn speedometer its like, "WTF, really? Already???"
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    I'm reasonably sure that everything is stock and the FL820S that I have will fit, I just didn't try. If it doesn't fit, Wix 57060 or Wix 57073 and Purolator L12222 or Purolator PSL12222 are the skinnier alternatives that can be used.

    I had mentioned SuperTech filters since the one on the 5.0 in The Scab had an awful rubber ADBV. I just changed the oil this past week on that car. Before that oil change, startups had been a bit chatty with that SuperTech filter. I was a little late (3,500 miles) on the oil change on that car, but it's been chatty for more than 500 miles. Although there is probably around 260k miles on that engine so some of the noise could be just the well worn engine, but the filter change did help the chatty startups.
    Vic

    ~ 1998 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - new DD
    ~ 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis LS "The Scab" - plenty of rot, summer DD
    ~ 1997 GMC Yukon - wannabe winter DD - returning summer 2020, I finally have an engine
    ~ 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis GS "The Ice Car" - My rotting winter DD
    ~ 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Rotting Retired DD
    Gone but not forgotten:
    ~ 1988 Country Squire ~ 1987 Ford Crown Vic

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    The Town Car usually gets a change once a year. It's already past that and the oil only has ~600 miles on it. Still looks nice and hasn't used any so not sure I'm going to bother changing it. Full synthetic 0W-40 Valvoline with Wix XP filter + MotorKote oil additive, I like that stuff. No chatter. But it used to on cold start ups, the MotorKote made that go away. On the dark side, Every General Motors product I've had never had noise on start up.
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