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    Got the new front brakes installed, and new wheel bearings aswell. No more warped rotors!
    Otherwise things went smoothly, but I fought quite a bit trying to push the pistons back into the calipers.
    Also as I was turning the wheels with the car off, the PS pump got overfilled as it wasn't pumping stuff into the box, so it spat out a bunch of ATF through breather hole in the fill cap...

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    Shiny! But jeezus the rotors are insanely heavy, and packing and installing the bearings wasn't exactly fun (first time for me). Maybe if I'll have this car for long, I might consider the unit bearing upgrade from a newer panther.
    Interestingly I was able to tighten the axle nuts way too tight even by hand, without even a socket.
    Got them pretty well set and took a couple kilometer test run and they didn't heat up at all so it should be fine.
    While I was there, I also greased the ball joints and outer tie rods.

    Still a couple cruise nights left for this season, probably taking the car to storage sometime in October.
    CFI is going in the bin when spring comes.
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    Another thing done that's kinda bugged me from the start; the peeling paint on the rear window trim. I picked up a can of matte white a while back.

    The vinyl half top and rear trim were once Canyon Red, but have been painted white years ago. While the top is in okay-ish shape, the paint was peeling from the trim.
    Boy am I glad I took off the bottom window trim instead of masking it aswell. There was about 36 years of semi-decomposed crap and pollen in there. No rust though.
    After digging most of it out:
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    Probably should've bought a natural white, but there wasn't any of that in the general store, and the pure white can was 3,99€.
    If the vinyl requires attention at some point, this thing's gonna get slicktopped. I don't mind a full vinyl top, but half tops are always kinda ugly. All or nothing.
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    Are you going to reuse the plastic clips that hold on the trim, or get new ones ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    Are you going to reuse the plastic clips that hold on the trim, or get new ones ?
    I was already missing a couple but I'll reuse the ones I have. I probably should find some replacements at some point. Generic most likely.
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    its sort of an oddball but exact replacements can be had. Pretty sure the ones I bought were for a Mustang coupe, they use them to hold the lower rear glass trim in. My Continental also uses them and I think only 3 were still intact.

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    Ford part number is: E0AZ-5442413B 14 pieces to a pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    Ford part number is: E0AZ-5442413B 14 pieces to a pack.
    Google doesn't find anything with that PN. I don't know if its the same on all boxes but the clips I had were like button heads that slid sideways on to the nubs on the car.
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    I took the part number from the package of nos I have in stock. Yes they are round with a slot on the back.
    There are available through three sellers on Ebay right now. Prices are reasonable.
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    Nice. Common part to degrade over time. Happened to my car too.
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    I've been thinking through the upcoming carb swap, and while the basics are pretty clear to me, I've been pondering on the two dozen little things; mostly electrical.
    So I've got a few questions I've been thinking on:

    -I'd like to go with either the funky Duraspark/HEI combination setup or just a DSII setup (the bastard HEI setup seems easier and simpler though). So the switched power should probably just come from where?

    -What stops working when I remove the engine harness completely? What ties into the engine harness?
    -Are the dash dummy lights a part of the engine harness or alternator harness?
    -How about fuel pump and it's relay?
    -AC surely is a part of the body harness?
    -Does the AC clutch have a WOT switch on CFI? Because it doesn't seem to act like it has one.

    Most likely I'll need to run switched power:
    -Fuel pump relay
    -Coil (according to http://www.carbdford.com/tech/HEI/hei.htm the TFI coil should be fine, but the wiring is probably a part of the engine harness)
    -Cruise control?
    -AC relay?

    If someone has the engine wiring diagram for CFI and maybe alternator harness diagram, those would be greatly appreciated!
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    I got a chance to drive a stock '84 Crown Vic wagon on Friday... Ended up parking it on a curb and crawling underneath it.
    The thing felt FAST compared to my sedan!

    Factory CFI 302, nothing special in any way on the car, smog stuff intact and all. Slickside white wagon, kinda base spec. Since the owner didn't know, I had to crawl underneath the car to check the axle tag; and it said 3.08. JUST. LIKE. MINE.
    Ended up trying a 0-100kmh (62mph) run a couple times in my own car afterwards. Without brake boosting, I got a time of about 19-20 seconds...

    So the pig-rich CFI is doing more than just ruining my fuel economy, who would've guessed...
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    '85 had slightly better heads than 84 did too. HP is up by 10 I think.

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    I snagged the first piece of the carb conversion puzzle.



    There was an FHRA swap meet in Malmi today, and I managed to buy this thing. It's a Holley 80570, 570cfm Street Avenger, was taken off a well-running mopar 383 in August.
    Looks a bit scruffy being dirty and with the mismatched bowl, but it's actually a MY07 so it's pretty new. And I paid only 200€ for it, new these are about 600€ in Finland.
    It's a bit on the big side for a stock LoPo, but it should still offer good driveability when properly adjusted. And I won't be running out of carb too fast if I get bit by the go-fast bug. Headers, cam, maybe even heads?

    Also bought a Mr Gasket phenolic spacer for 10€ from the swap meet. It's painted orange for whatever reason. There would've been an old used Edelbrock Performer for 200€ aswell, but I ran out of cash and those old farts never have a mobile pay system. TBH 200€ for it felt kinda high.
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    I think that carb will be perfect. Hopefully they didn't mess with it too much. I think 97% of people bolt it on and roll (including myself).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    I think that carb will be perfect. Hopefully they didn't mess with it too much. I think 97% of people bolt it on and roll (including myself).
    He said it was tuned for the mild-ish 383, but didn't mention anything about jetting. I'll of course check what jets are in it before and change them outright if deemed necessary.
    I've got a lot of studying to do, I don't know much about carbs.
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    Make sure to swap over the throttle lever for the proper geometry (or mod the one on the carb).

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    Very nice! Holleys are great because they can be very finely tuned. You made a good buy with that carb.

    Have you picked out a 4bbl intake yet? If not Id look into the edelbrock performer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sly View Post
    Make sure to swap over the throttle lever for the proper geometry (or mod the one on the carb).
    You mean the AOD TV-stuff? For that I'll be getting the Lokar cable with Sonnax AS4-04K corrector bracket and AS6-01 throttle and TV cable bracket. Simplest setup I can come up with, but a bit spendy. The Sonnax brackets can actually be bought through RockAuto, which is great for me. Cable and some other bits and bobs most likely coming via Summit.

    Quote Originally Posted by matth825 View Post
    Have you picked out a 4bbl intake yet? If not Id look into the edelbrock performer.
    Not yet, the performer is somewhat common to find used here, so I'll most likely be getting one of those. Don't really want to roll the dice on a chinesium intake, even if they're cheap.
    There's a used performer RPM for sale aswell, but I fear that the stock air cleaner won't fit on the carb with the taller intake plus the phenolic spacer. But do correct me if I'm wrong in that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arquemann View Post
    You mean the AOD TV-stuff? For that I'll be getting the Lokar cable with Sonnax AS4-04K corrector bracket and AS6-01 throttle and TV cable bracket. Simplest setup I can come up with, but a bit spendy. The Sonnax brackets can actually be bought through RockAuto, which is great for me. Cable and some other bits and bobs most likely coming via Summit.
    Nice.

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    Wouldn't have minded to make things work with the TV-rod, but in addition to having to bend it, the hardest part would be to figure out the ratio completely mirrored, as on the holley the bracket aod nub will pull instead of push as with the CFI.
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