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    Question Pictures Needed........

    Does anybody have pictures of their stock accessory bracket setup on the lopo? I had a bunch of pictures on my old phone; which unfortunately got smashed a few years ago. In particular, I would like to look at the power steering pump/alternator bracket setup on the lopo. I think I know how that is configured, just need to confirm that I have all of the parts.

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    I can take some for you tonight when Iím back at home.


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    You are 351 now though. I have heard you need a special alternator bracket.
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    Thanks Dave That's exactly what I needed. Yah, my 351W was not wanting to line the bracket up. Though, I will get a better look at things when I remove the power steering return line; the hard steel line, for whatever reasons, was hitting the power steering pump. I'm gonna make new lines anyways using 6AN teflon hose and the appropriate steel fittings.

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    I figured out what my issue is; it's 2-fold. I got a Weiand water pump for the F-250 that the engine came from. Coupled with the width of the 351W; it's making things very difficult with the stock CV brackets. I am going to trace a bracket with cardboard and then see if I can transfer that to steel. Also going to look into the aftermarket offerings and see which is the least expensive and time consuming.

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    Alt and PS bracket is the same, its the AC bracket that is specific for the 351. I think only one bolt gets used vs 2 though. Use the proper water pump for the engine, it all just fits together like peas and carrots. No need for special PS hoses either, the stock one just goes in like it was made for it, which it was.

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    Ahh. AC bracket it is. Noted.
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    Yeah, I know; the problem is my younger/dumber self started buying parts right after bringing the engine home 10 years ago. I was probably mistakenly thinking that the 1996 F4TE would be different from the non-roller blocks. It's the same thinking that I used when getting swap meet valve covers; and getting the wrong X-pipe. I just didn't know to hold off until I started taking the car apart and assessing what I would need to make things work. Live and learn.

    As such; I might buy the correct water pump for a P72 and hopefully that will make things a little easier to work with.

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    If you need a picture of a factory 351w accessory setup, i can provide
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    I think I will purchase the correct water pump and see what I got to work with when it arrives. I think for now, my current water pump is the issue/problem.

    Thank you Phil

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    might also want to take note of what timing cover is on that thing. There is a reverse flow pump one that doesn't work with the pump you need for stock belt setups.



    Any of the standard rotation ones can be made to work, just have to block off the fuel pump and/or dipstick hole if you aren't using them.

    wierdly, Mustangs use a reverse rotation pump but the standard rotation cover. I don't honestly know what the backwards cover is on but it might be a truck part.

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    I know that I got a Ford Racing timing cover; I think from the CJ Pony tent when they were still having swap meets/flea markets in Englishtown Raceway Park. It's where I got the valve covers and other miscellaneous items. I remember writing down what I got; I just don't know if my notes came back with me. The timing cover didn't have the dipstick hole, nor the crankshaft sensor mount; but it did have the mechanical fuel pump flange, which I blocked off. I will yank the current water pump off and see what I got. There should be a number stamped on there.

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    Okay, I have a picture of what I think is the water pump pulley, but I need confirmation. I had it in the junk bin along with the lopo intake manifold. Is this the lopo water pump pulley?

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    Sure looks like it to me.

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    Thank you Tiggie I am going to clean and paint that pulley by this weekend.

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    got a part number on it?

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    D9AE-8509-B7B

    I think this is it. The only other Ford engine disassembled here was the 390FE; and it’s still intact.

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    There is no -B7B suffix listed but a D9AE-8509-B is the 1980 Vic with trailer pulley. 81 up shows an E0 part number, but I have no idea what the difference is. Possibly slightly smaller, but it should be the correct offset.

    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

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    Well, the CV shows evidence of having random parts ordered or installed. The fender brace mounting points have broken bolts in the holes (yeah, I know I have to get those out); trailing arms that came with the car had the holes for the rear sway bar; hood is aluminum; among many random things that car has. And I am working behind somebody that made wonky repairs to the car. I will clean and paint that pulley and see what it looks like installed.

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